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onesassylassyPosted: 2007-09-18 07:25
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I've done without for many years. That is my reality. Begging as if my life or happiness depended on something when I know it doesn't just doesn't work for me.

I have the same problem with begging, its not pride but reality that stops me.


Ditto. Life is not/has never been a thing of ease and comfort for me. I have gone without much, so really struggle with begging, most of the time. However, when he brings me to the edge... won't let me cum until i beg the way he likes to hear it... LOL - THAT begging comes quite easily and naturally!

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SwitchySuzyPosted: 2007-09-18 08:05
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When he tells you "That's not good enough" - don't take literally. He just wants to hear you beg some more.

That was also the first thing that came to mind when I read the question. He's probably just pushing to hear more.

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RRafePosted: 2007-09-18 08:52
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ELECTROMAGNETIC_FORCE:
When he tells you "That's not good enough" - don't take literally. He just wants to hear you beg some more.

That was also the first thing that came to mind when I read the question. He's probably just pushing to hear more.



I think I push becuase I get tired of the inhibited catholic guilt thing. Admission is the first step towards getting over it.
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The_Animal_TrainerPosted: 2007-09-18 08:56
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Reposted from another thread too. It may not all apply to your situation, but some might be usefull.


I don't think it's a good idea to connect begging so closely to wanting/needing something specific. For example, some suggested that beating a submissive until she begs quite well to have it stopped is a good idea. I think you'd find that while begging for the beating to stop would be sincere, and likely turn out to be a good bout of begging, that you'd also have difficulty transfering that state of mind to another activity. The reason is that the specific thing you're begging for in the case of wanting the beating to stop isn't going to be around most of the time, and further, having picked something so extreme to bring the begging about, it's even more difficult to replicate.

I suggest that the submissive change her focus from the beating, or other suggested intense activities, to wanting to please her dominant. If a submissive can be brought to need pleasing her dominant in a super-intense manner, that feeling, that need, that expression of begging in my experience can be easily transferred from one activity to another.

One more thing to keep in mind when begging (and this might help to find the correct words) there are a couple of really fundamental ideas connected to begging, the most important of which is recognition on both parts of the equation that the power to grant or deny desire X, is within the hands of the dominant. In my view someone who is begging ought always to incorporate this idea into their speech. This leads to my final point which is directly related:

BE HUMBLE.

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LivanyPosted: 2007-09-18 09:00
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Something in the way he says it, this small pitiful voice so full of yearning, just does it for me.


That small pitiful voice is the biggest part of the whole thing. There is also a bit of whine in it as well. DeTaz


Oh yes whining is good, but it does have to be the right kind of whining. It can't be the "I'm five, I haven't eaten, I need lunch and a nap" kind of a whine that's just not attractive.
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Onion_GirlPosted: 2007-09-18 10:09
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We don't do role-play. Ever. And neither of us says anything we don't mean. 99% of the time. So if he wants me to want something that badly I encourage him to find a way to get me to want it that badly, I will do my best to partner with him in getting me to want it badly. He will always get an authentic response from me. Well as close to always as I can manage. Reality is most often I am quite aware that I can do without something. I've done without for many years. That is my reality. Begging as if my life or happiness depended on something when I know it doesn't just doesn't work for me.

I know that was no help.



Actually, that helped me a great deal. Thanks!
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GryphonGrrlPosted: 2007-09-18 11:03
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dark_angel924Posted: 2007-09-18 12:08
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"begging" is a great format for submission.

most of the time, i can't think of anything worth my begging for. Most things i want, i can get myself. Begging really becomes an act of submission for me, which is why (i'm sure) my partners ask me to beg. i commit to lowering myself before my partner and begging, as if the only path to what i want is through my partner, as if i have no other choice, and as if i really, really want that for which i'm begging, this it it - do or die. If you can't swallow your pride, don't attempt to beg.

Sincerity, is a point of view. Pretend, fake it, until your enthusiasm to beg is sincere. It will come to you if you allow it. Don't worry, you can claim back all your pride immediately afterward. In the interim, never let on that you are not sincere - wear your sincere hat as if your life depends on it. Do not laugh or giggle.

say "please" be polite and well mannered.

this won't be enough.

pout a bit but not too much. get down on your hands and knees and gravel. Do those low bows bending from the waist with hands outstretched to touching the floor head first then finger tips as if before God and your soul is on the line.

repeat asking what you want with a couple of "please" 's added in and smile that "positive winning attitude smile no one can resist".

jump up and down, be disparate and say "i'm begging you, i'm begging you, please, please, please with a cherry on top, may i _______________?".


If you do not get approval for begging at this point, take out the BIG GUNS.

BRIBE and BARGIN the mother fucker.

remember not to laugh, giggle or smirk. It is a game - and you want to win - right?


i'll clean your house.

i'll wash your car.

i'll do your data entry.

i'll clean the kitty litter box for a month.

i'll suck your cock.

i'll lick your ass.

You must remember to be reasonable, yet generous. You must be prepared to follow-thru.

Example:

Do not offer to lick his pee off the underside of the toilet seat unless you will.


If it isn't quite going to gel as a deal at this time, be ruthless.

Compliments work wonders if they are sincere.

Example:

"i know i am but a lowly cum/piss-mop whore slut before your exquisitely handsome, skilled, intelligent and powerful being...

and may i please, please, please, ________________________?"


It is very important the compliment is sincere, it shows as sincere in your eyes, really truely mean what you say here.

Then bat your eyes, smile that "winning positive attitude smile no can resist."


At this point, you can go full throttle, get down on your hands and knees, ask permission to kiss his boots, repeat all wordage from above with gravelly emphasis. If you can cry real tears at this point, absolutely do.


Seriously, what you are begging for is insignificant. It is that you are willing to do all this for Master that really counts.

It doesn't matter if you are over the phone or in person, do the same actions (extend pretend play as needed.)

i like this game. It is very fun for everybody involved.


Edited by - dark_angel924 on 2007-09-18 12:14:45

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topaztigrePosted: 2007-09-18 18:54
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Awesome advice, everyone. Thank you so much. I am now ready to beg!
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NightWhipPosted: 2007-09-19 00:33
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not much hotter when she really begs
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teamnoirPosted: 2007-09-19 08:19
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topaztigre:So what do you do if your Master wants you to beg for something, and you don't want it badly enough to beg for it?

I believe the technical name for this technique is "fake it 'till you make it".

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kittenXXXPosted: 2007-09-20 06:04
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Gosh, i am lucky! i NEVER get 'told' to beg..it's simply something i do when i find that place in myself that needs something so bad, or needs something to stop so bad!!
Begging comes from inside, from humility....once i swallowed my pride, it was easy.
Probably not helpful, but there it is.
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