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jeff1950Posted: 2008-05-08 22:22
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your idea is correct, Mistress Miranda. it very hard to get feminized. a play party is the way to go. there was a group i was with a couple of years ago. i almost was feminized by them. but, for certain reasons, we parted company.
i think going to play parties is easier said than done. if you do not beyond the a group, than you are out of luck.
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MistressMirandaPosted: 2008-05-09 08:34
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your idea is correct, Mistress Miranda. it very hard to get feminized. a play party is the way to go. there was a group i was with a couple of years ago. i almost was feminized by them. but, for certain reasons, we parted company.
i think going to play parties is easier said than done. if you do not beyond the a group, than you are out of luck.


I'm a shy person, who doesn't usually belong to groups. My experience is that you have to give people time to get comfortable with you, see you around a few times, have conversations with a few people. Yes, it's far more uncomfortable for you, the person who is new, but patience is required. So try again. Not every friendship works out.

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jeff1950Posted: 2008-05-09 15:03
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i apreciate your imput. it is excellent advice. it is assuming that i have a chance as a man to find women to play with. i got news for you. it is easy when you are a woman. but, get in my body and see how far you get. most men in bondage or other places are ignored. my favorite is when they ask why did you contact them when their is nothing they can do for you, or good luck finding someone. since there are 3 men for every 1 woman, you can imagine how hard it is to get a play partner at any websites. women are extremely selective. they fear someone they have never met. that why recommendations from friends works best. almost all women in all bdsm websites do the same when it comes to males. if i was great looking that would be different. but, i just an average guy.
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MistressMirandaPosted: 2008-05-09 15:14
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i apreciate your imput. it is excellent advice. it is assuming that i have a chance as a man to find women to play with. i got news for you. it is easy when you are a woman. but, get in my body and see how far you get. most men in bondage or other places are ignored. my favorite is when they ask why did you contact them when their is nothing they can do for you, or good luck finding someone. since there are 3 men for every 1 woman, you can imagine how hard it is to get a play partner at any websites. women are extremely selective. they fear someone they have never met. that why recommendations from friends works best. almost all women in all bdsm websites do the same when it comes to males. if i was great looking that would be different. but, i just an average guy.


Men may be friendly to me at bdsm events, but I try to make friends with women too, including straight women who have no interest in playing with me. If you approach it as a social event and get to know people, you'll find people who aren't just looking at how you look. I'm not interested in people who are just looking at how I look either.

You've waited this long. You have nothing to lose by expecting nothing, being patient, and putting yourself in situations in which you can meet people. Taking a class, where there is no expectation of playing, is another option.

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jeff1950Posted: 2008-05-09 17:15
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you say you are shy. yet, there is no event or party that would not welcome you. it makes it easier for you to go. my problem is i am not considered acceoptable by most people. my social skiils are incredible low. i am shyer than you by quite a bit. if a woman talked to me, my heart would probably go crazy. if i went to a social event, i would sit by myself and nothing would happen.
your advice is duly noted for future reference.
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MistressMirandaPosted: 2008-05-09 18:05
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you say you are shy. yet, there is no event or party that would not welcome you. it makes it easier for you to go. my problem is i am not considered acceoptable by most people. my social skiils are incredible low. i am shyer than you by quite a bit. if a woman talked to me, my heart would probably go crazy. if i went to a social event, i would sit by myself and nothing would happen.
your advice is duly noted for future reference.


If you're going to think negatively, don't think ahead. I've had my share of awkward social events at which I didn't know anyone, but it's not a contest to see which one of us is a bigger misfit. If you're geeky, so much the better. So are 3/4 of the people you'll meet. Be nice to them, and they'll be nice to you.

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Omega47Posted: 2008-05-10 01:47
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Having not been feminised at all and unlikely to be, I felt I didn;t have much to contribute to this thread, but during an unrelated conversation with my wife the other day, I wondered if maybe I had stumbled on another possible reason for why men allow/enjoy such behaviour.

I got wondering when she said to me, "Why is it always assumed that the submissive is always female?" When I asked what made her say that, she said that upon doing some research into D/s, the web-sites uniformly referred to the master and the female slave.

I thought for a moment and offered that because human history has always put females as a weaker sex, that it is just assumed that they still are. After all, even today, women are still not earning equal pay to similarly employed men in many professions.

I then quietly thought of this thread and it's question. Could it be that by feminising oneself is to make the 'stronger' man a 'weaker' and 'softer' target for whomever is trying to dominate him?

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jeff1950Posted: 2008-05-10 10:22
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the last reply to this post has an interesting prospective to the question. i will answer the best i can.
there are those males that have identity problems. they are not sure where they stand in life. many because they want to make their female doms happy. others because they are curious to find out how it feels. i am sure their are still a few other reasons.
that is my prospective on my question. in my case, it is curiousity and it feels good to get feminized by another person. it is relaxing to get brush stokes across your face. i watch one actress love each stroke across her face. it like anything else. you love other people doing things for you. these are my reasons to get feminized. others have different reasons.
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Skylar_Posted: 2008-05-18 11:53
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Omega47:
Having not been feminised at all and unlikely to be, I felt I didn;t have much to contribute to this thread, but during an unrelated conversation with my wife the other day, I wondered if maybe I had stumbled on another possible reason for why men allow/enjoy such behaviour.

I got wondering when she said to me, "Why is it always assumed that the submissive is always female?" When I asked what made her say that, she said that upon doing some research into D/s, the web-sites uniformly referred to the master and the female slave.

I thought for a moment and offered that because human history has always put females as a weaker sex, that it is just assumed that they still are. After all, even today, women are still not earning equal pay to similarly employed men in many professions.

I then quietly thought of this thread and it's question. Could it be that by feminising oneself is to make the 'stronger' man a 'weaker' and 'softer' target for whomever is trying to dominate him?



Interesting point but I don't believe that crossdressing has anything to do with submission, it's a fun and sometimes humiliating thing to do, but it doesn't speak of submission to Me.
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Big_Dumb_ApePosted: 2008-05-18 12:42
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I tried a "Forced" feminization scene, it was her kink. Frankly I couldn't take it seriously enough to do it. I'm not gong to pretend I understand the need, or want to do this sort of thing. I did have an idea that I thought might be worth considering though.

Perhaps for some its a way to break free of role society has forced on them. Many women will rant and go on forever about the fact they are shoe boxed into a stereotype while there are quite a few men that don't like the typical masculine role, too. Men sometimes have a hard time finding outlets to express less traditional ideas because of the ridiculing that happens if a guy isn't a mans man, so to speak. If I had to guess, this might be a solid reason for why an average guy with no gay or bisexual tenancies might like feminization.

It really isn't any different, I don't think, than the corporate suit that goes home watches sports on TV in his boxers while drinking beer and eating cereal out of the box. Its just taking things a bit further maybe?

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MsCheexPosted: 2008-05-18 17:45
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They do it because some men will often do anything for the right woman. There is nothing like having a powerful dominant woman control you. It is a magnificent high.

I think they do it because of the way it makes them feel, regardless.

Having been involved with a CD for about four years I should probably think about his motivations and their implications more, but since I tend to fetishise feminized males I'd rather not bother.

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jlc6724Posted: 2008-05-20 06:33
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I am a crossdresser who dresses up usually on weekends. While I am also submissive that has nothing to do with why I dress. I dress because I love that way it feels. And it is not even sexual (although it can be), I feel very natural and relaxed when I am all dressed up and feminine. In some ways I become another person. I also go to gay/lesbian/alternative bars and I love it when I treated as a woman.
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kinkiprincessPosted: 2008-05-20 17:15
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snowflakes, remember, we're all different. different reasons for different guys, you can't lump them all together. i know my master does it for me, because it excites me, its a reward for good behavior of sorts, and lots of other reasons he has that he shares and keeps to himself, too many to mention. but that's just one experience.

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Sometimes_missPosted: 2008-06-03 11:46
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I was conditioned to believe I was supposed to be a girl when I was a kid by my abuser, and various other things done to me by family members. As this took place throughout my entire early years of development, by the time my natural 'gender identity' development should have taken place, it was kind of a bit late. So, I always have the feeling that I'm supposed to be wearing girls clothing, and have the desire to be pretty. When dressed as a male, I get the same uncomfortable feeling that you would, say, if you were dressed in a swimsuit at a formal affair. You're not exactly exposed, but just feel really 'wrong'. Dressing up, putting on some make up and nail polish, jewelry and such, focuses on stereotypical female behavior, and makes me feel 'normal' despite outward appearances to the contrary.
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AestusPosted: 2008-06-04 05:11
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For many, it can be the role reversal part. Dressing up like a girl and taking it in the ass like a girl can be a powerful combination, even though you're strictly attracted to women and you clearly identify as a male.

And as even OP suggested, it might be the domme of the relationship who brings it up, perhaps because she has some bisexual tendencies, perhaps because she finds it more logical to dominate a female, or perhaps she's also interested in the role reversal, and the sub will be glad to obey, as even though it doesn't directly interest him, obeying his mistress might give him more pleasure than doing what directly interests him.

As a bisexual male who's only moderately interested in this, the two above reasons would be what would cause most motivation to do it, but I suppose right under it there's the typical gangrape scene, with the victim being a male in female clothes. Too bad I don't have a feminine enough body to be able to pull of a scene like that.

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