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| MassaKist | Posted: 2002-07-08 00:31 | |
Forum Maniac United States 2,306 Posts | I don't care about name capitalization. (Obviously) I don't care if someone wants to write Me, Mine, Yours, and whatever. However, that double stuff (O/our) is very annoying, and I usually won't even bother reading the post that it's in. Depends on who wrote it and if it can hold my interest long enough for me to work through it. What's wrong with just trying to write properly, though? If it's an issue of respect, how about respecting your readers with something that's easy to read? (The "you" in here is general, not necessarily you, Scud.) | |
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| Child_of_Babylo | Posted: 2002-07-08 03:02 | |
Forum Slut United Kingdom 1,307 Posts | I'm sorry, but this just seems a really pointless question. If I want to, I can fuck my sub so much and so hard she bleeds and cannot walk for days; i can ballgag her, suspend her upside down from the ceiling and whip her until she is a sobbing, bleeding mess; if i so desire I can command her to accept that i want to take more slaves that she will never meet. Basically, what i'm saying is that of all the issues of control and power to worry about in a bdsm relationship or in the community generally, whether or not to use capitals just seems unfeasibly petty and silly. These things can only possibly be of interest in cyber-bdsm, which i'm sorry, just isn't real. A cyber-blowjob just doesn't cut it; a virtual whipping cannot actually hurt you. The only possible area this can be of any use is in attracting a sub through the profiles for eventual r/l play. Personally, I'd stray away from Master or Sir simply 'cos they sound a bit affected and unoriginal, but even then, I reckon photographs and profile text are gonna be more important than a name. Hope this doesn't sound to harsh, but I'm just really not understanding this stuff. I worry about the potential for power abuse in bdsm, not about whether to capitalise a pronoun! Child_of_Babylon (Nasty) (I tried to resist, but the Hive Queen sucked out my brain and replaced it with Goose Jizz) | |
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| DevilishOne | Posted: 2002-07-08 03:44 | |
Cunning Linguist United States 1,973 Posts | <font face='Tahoma'><font color=red> Child_of_Babylon, among others, has made a good point; the online stuff is "virtual" and all the gyrations people go through in the "cyber" realm--whether it's calling one's self "KingDomMasterLordTopSir" or d/Doing t/The s/Silly c/Capitalization t/Thing--don't matter in real life, in person, where bodies exist. That said, if a person wants to apply those distinctions to others--e.g., a submissive feels s/he needs to have a nick that's all lowercase, or prefers hitting the shift key at the beginning of any pronoun referring to a Dom/me--hey, whatever floats your boat. But if a person insists on others capitalizing pronouns referring to him/her, or goes on a tear because someone forgot the "Lord" part of "KingDomMasterLordTopSir"... well, my advice is to buy a ticket on the clue bus. There are few things sillier than someone insisting on such a meaningless, stupid formality. Among those few things, though, are people who take the "cyber" too seriously. And professional wrestling. "Apres moi, le deluge" | |
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| Child_of_Babylo | Posted: 2002-07-08 03:50 | |
Forum Slut United Kingdom 1,307 Posts | hey! Pro-wrestling is the ultimate metaphor for life! Hahahahahahaha! Child_of_Babylon (Nasty) (I tried to resist, but the Hive Queen sucked out my brain and replaced it with Goose Jizz) | |
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| BP | Posted: 2002-07-08 05:16 | |
Forum Regular United States 636 Posts | scud, this is a serious question requiring a serious answer. I'll try to keep this simple but remember, THIS IS MY OPINION AND IS NOT INTENDED TO FLAME OR DEGRADE YOU. (Others, who will remain un-named at this point...no such luck.) There are two parts so this both of which I have illuded to in previous posts. First, capitolization is used to designate and respect each others role and status. You may completely do without it if you so choose but be prepared for a backlash from the more sensitive. If a Top is, in Your opinion, deserving of the title, it is only right that you honor Him or Her with some designation to that respect. For a sub, it is no different. Those who know Me realize the I believe an intelligent sub is one of the most precious and valuable people walking the face of the earth. Without bragging, I'm highly educated yet do not consider Myself to hold a candle to the intelligence level of some subs I have known. When I lower case the name of a sub, it is to honor him or her in recoginition of who they are and has no derogitory connotation. My capitolization, or lack thereof carries several meanings but is always intentional. I'll leave that sentence to stand by itself due to it's importance. The point being that if I want to honor a M/F transexual, I will refer to that person in the female gender. To dishonor a hormone injecting transvestite, I would call him a him regardless of his breast size or voice pitch. Get the point? Another example, let's pick on missy. Yes, I will lower case her name and every reference to her. To Me, it honors her and her relationship with Soldat. Do I consider missy My lesser? Not a friggin chance in hell! (For one, she's a much better and more thoughtful poet than I will ever be.) Sidestep to protocol. Only with Soldat's permission will address missy directly, in which case, I will speak to her as a sub but always with the respect as she is not My sub. Does that make sense to you? Now onto the "Master" and "Sir" bit. Personally, I kinda let the Sir, Lord, and Lady crap slide. The Master and Mistress stuff gets into My hide. Mistress? Let Me see? Would that be concubine, whore, or someone pretending to be superior to what? Certainly not Me. Pretty much My same feelings to anyone puting "Master" in their title. I've got a few "Master" titles and degrees of My own but that is beside the point. I may be the Master of a particular sub but one title I will not claim is that being a "Master" of BDSM technique. In My opinion, for a person to self-proclaim the title "Master" or "Mistress" in their name is a personal affront to Me as I have not met a single one yet who was worthy to lick My toe cheese. They are pretentious fakes or whores. Take your pick. Bent Peter So bad I'd kill a six-pack just to watch it die. | |
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| Scheherezade | Posted: 2002-07-08 06:12 | |
Forum Apprentice United States 168 Posts | A very interesting topic, to be sure. I categorize it along with religion and politics: usually controversial and never easy to agree on. I enjoy writing as a hobby and just cannot change the ways I learned as a youth with regards to capitalization. It is not intended to be disrespectful to anyone. I have been misunderstood to be a domme when in some chat rooms, simply because of capitalization. As far as titles are concerned: I will use honorifics when *I* perceive the recipient as deserving of it. I am not stingy with them, but I am not indiscriminate with them either. As far as the "A/all, O/our" method of communication, I find it cumbersome to both write and read, and will not use it. Tolerance is something that was emphasized early on in my introduction to D/s. I am happy to tolerate all of the above variations, as long as I am afforded the same courtesy for my own foibles. | |
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| MoonPagan | Posted: 2002-07-08 21:39 | |
| Forum Maniac Canada 2,237 Posts | I'll have to go with grammatical clarity above all else. Hmmmmm. I wonder who else here has mentioned that? Whether it be vocal, written, or any other medium of communication, isn't the idea of others understanding the most important? This world is already hard enough to deal with, let alone allowing what fluency we do have in communications to deteriorate further than it already has. <Ron attempts his best rendition of Foghorn Leghorn> Ron V. (MoonPagan). ( ;-} > Edited by - Moonshell53 on 07/08/2002 21:45:47 | |
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| LittleWench | Posted: 2002-07-08 21:55 | |
| Forum Maniac United States 4,422 Posts | For myself i used to constantly use the capitals when referring to Dom/mes, was how i was taught, i do not do it so much now, and i refer to very few as Sir, and only one as Master. i do still occassionally use the capitals when talking with some, is a habit i have, and i feel disrespectful not doing it at times. It all depends on who i'm talking to. i must say i think it is a sign of respect, although i have gotten away from doing the Y/you type thing. Wench Wishing that your dreams become reality, and your nightmares only a memory... | |
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| Azrael | Posted: 2002-07-10 18:18 | |
Forum Maniac United States 2,844 Posts | I never picked up the cyber-Capitals thing as it offended my Inner English Minor. Wait, I think I actually did have English among my four minors...uhh....:P Anyway, as for the Sir thing, I've put up with it scening, but I always want to bite back the traditional reply of the longtime enlisted soldier, snarled by NCO's for at least a hundred years in the American military: "Don't call me sir, goddamn it, I work for a fucking living." Maybe after OCS it won't bug me as much....=) SFA North America | |
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