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| BigDdy31 | Posted: 2007-04-25 20:58 | |
Forum Maniac United States 3,533 Posts | SacredMaster: Begging is a natural behavior in a DS relationship. By begging, the sub both expresses her need and affirms the superiority of the dom. Because begging flatters the dominant, it's more effective than bitching, screaming, whining, etc. -- all of which corrode the power exchange over time. Do you want a power exchange or a fighting match? If you want a power exchange, learning to beg is a good idea. A dominant will grant a request if it pleases him or if he recognizes he benefits in the long run. Only when your request doesn't offer much of a benefit do you need to resort to begging. I suppose begging could be done in many ways, but there's one way that works especially well (in my opinion). There's an attitude and cadence to it I'll try to describe. The attitude can be described as "certainty." Do not beg if you have already accepted his decision on some level. Beg only when you know that he will ultimately benefit by granting your request. Begging begins the instant you perceive that, despite all reason, your request is being refused. Start by saying "Please, Sir" very fast. Wait a second for approval and then repeat it again. Say those two words very fast, repeating it. This fills a dominant with power. Dominants like that feeling; it's one of the reasons they're dominant. The response will be negative or doubtful, but the instant he replies, say it again. Repeat it, very fast. Remember the attitude is one of certainly, not whining. If you find yourself whining, you have already accepted his decision. In that case, you should just accept your place. As you continue to repeat those words, you will find you're making progress. If he isn't budging, however, you can escalate the process to bargaining by offering something of pleasure or benefit to him -- preferably something he knows you dislike. This shows him how serious you are. The right offer, combined with the begging, will almost certainly work. That or you can just scare the great and genuine christ jaysus out of'em by giving them to know they can beg you now or beg you to stop later and then follow through with the punishment. Then you get crying AND begging which is mucho better. Says it right here in the Big Daddy S and M Handbook under my pillow. Oh, hey, your initials spell SM. Kool.
Edited by - BigDdy31 on 2007-04-25 21:19:55 | |
| Leadfromfront | Posted: 2007-04-25 21:38 | |
Forum Slut United States 1,301 Posts | SacredMaster: Begging is a natural behavior in a DS relationship. By begging, the sub both expresses her need and affirms the superiority of the dom. Because begging flatters the dominant, it's more effective than bitching, screaming, whining, etc. -- all of which corrode the power exchange over time. Golly. None of these behaviours is either necessary nor desirable in my relationships.
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| salleesweet | Posted: 2007-04-25 23:40 | |
Forum Maniac United States 7,600 Posts | Begging was not something I was that capable of doing either because I was taught it was disrespectful to do that and therefore doing that to the Owner was just that disrespectful. If he tells me no, it is no - and i should accept that - unless I can provide him with a logical and sound reason for it to become a yes. That is not begging that is discussing point and counterpoint. I have only been told to beg once - and it was not the Owner or the Master who did the telling - my response was to tell the dominant who told me that "nope, not/can't go there - sorry" I have on a few occassions though gone there in scene - most often it would have been urgently requesting permission to cum. There have been times when I have pulled the same routine with the Owner or Master before him that I would have pulled with my dad when I was younger - using the softer, sweeter voice, batting eyelashes, etc. to gain permission to do something I really wanted to do - but that is more manipulation/seduction in my eyes more than begging. | |
| angelicwhimpers | Posted: 2007-04-26 00:53 | |
| Forum Apprentice United States 309 Posts | okies i am soo the same way ... when i'm told to beg i'm always like "please can -----" or "please will ---" and of course thats never enough if they want you to beg soo i seem to only be able to really beg when i really want something bad enough and He just wont give it cause i didnt beg good enough yet -- i'm not bad,others are just to good,i do what i want,and they do what they should.----- "remember W/we're not vanilla." He said. -----i dont like red, will black and blue work? | |
| LadyAvalon | Posted: 2007-04-26 01:43 | |
| Forum Initiate 27 Posts | Bookmark Edited by - LadyAvalon on 2007-05-11 02:07:36 | |
| jewels2000 | Posted: 2007-04-26 01:48 | |
| Forum Regular 552 Posts | Begging can be tricky for me. I find that I need to be able to touch base with my emotion.....and I believe that a real 'need' must be present in order for the begging to be sincere. I'm still working on it. | |
| arayofsunshine | Posted: 2007-04-26 05:23 | |
black swan United States 10,664 Posts | Oh and I forgot to add, begging him to stop doing something is natural for me. Comes out of me without coaxing when he gets me to that point. Although there can be a fine line between begging and whining -- Sunshine Daddy's owned HN. He's Pimping his ride Seeing the goodness in someone does not imply ignoring their difficult qualities or unskilled actions. Rather, we can fully acknowledge these difficulties, while at the same time we choose to focus on the positive. If we focus on the negative we will naturally feel anger, resentment, or disappointment. If we focus on the positive, we will forge connection to the person. Sharon Salzberg | |
| femmesubinmd | Posted: 2007-04-26 19:00 | |
| Forum Apprentice 180 Posts | I would like to thank everyone who put their thoughts/opinions into this. Most have been very helpful, and I now know that I'm not alone when it comes to having issues with begging. | |
| _incognito_ | Posted: 2007-04-27 18:55 | |
Forum Apprentice United States 405 Posts | in my relationship (which might not work for your relationship) i find it sexiest to look him directly in the eye and simply say 'please'. eye contact is extremely difficult for me in all situations with him, so it shows that i have an urgent need. i dont smile, i dont frown, i just show my intensity in my eyes. for him, its where the princess becomes the whore and it sends him over the edge. ill gladly do it anytime he pleases. | |
| bwana55419 | Posted: 2007-04-27 21:05 | |
| Forum Maniac United States 3,344 Posts | When all else fails look to The Temptations for wisdom. "If I have to sleep on your doorstep "I may be rancid butter, but I'm on your side of the bread" | |
| jewels2000 | Posted: 2007-05-01 19:43 | |
| Forum Regular 552 Posts | But for some reason I now think I'm going to learn how to beg realllyyyy well.... | |
| KoTeTo | Posted: 2007-05-04 01:01 | |
| Forum Initiate 38 Posts | I learned to beg pretty fast when my owner started spanking my butt (he also used a handsfree cabel) and told me to beg him to stop. I had never begged in my life before that happen, but I begged so damn well | |
| femmesubinmd | Posted: 2007-05-06 15:09 | |
| Forum Apprentice 180 Posts | For anyone who is following up on this post, I am learning to beg. I'm not good at it, but atleast I'm not going blank anymore. I begged my Domme (over the phone) this weekend. She pointed out to me that last weekend when I was with her, I did beg, and I was not too bad at it. I guess for me it's just easier to beg if I am kneeling in front of her. | |
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