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| FlwrFirefly | Posted: 2008-06-06 20:02 | |
| Forum Initiate United States 2 Posts | Okay... I understand the whole enjoyment for a man to be forced into being femmed out... But what about the man who asks you to force him to be femmed out? I dated a man years ago who I firmly believe has a sexual identity crisis and I want to know if there is another reason other than latent homosexual tendencies. He had an entire female wardrobe (including shoes) and was thrilled to realize we wore the same size (I'm 5'10" with size 10 shoes so not a big stretch there). He loved it when I made him up but was utterly terrified to exit into the world (even in an area where he wouldn't be noticed and/or recognized at all). He even held on to home video footage of his ex dressed as a man performing anal sex on him dressed up as a woman. He even spoke of trying to find a gay male to join us... as if my being there would be enough of a buffer for him to still tell himself that he is straight. To be honest, he was a great guy... and when we weren't "on" you would never know he had even the most remote of these tendencies. Our relationship quickly deteriorated (it was mostly a friendship with BDSM fun thrown in anyways) because I was completely turned off by this man who seemed to want me around to help him ease into homosexuality. Is there truly any other explanation for behavior like this? Could it have been just curiousity or something else? Many a more extreme forced femme than I could perform? Any alt thoughts or points of view here would be greatly appreciated! | |
| redleopold | Posted: 2008-06-06 21:38 | |
Forum Initiate United States 2 Posts | My first post to bondage.com; I hope I get it right. To me, "forced feminization" or "forced" anything must often have to do with feeling a sense of acceptance or permission from one's partner. That's how my forced bi- fantasies work - I want to be "ordered" to have sex with a guy for a woman's pleasure. It gets me past the anxiety of the taboo, plus it elevates the woman's power in my eyes. I've played with fetish cross-dressing all my life because it turns me on. It's just sexy. Women all dressed up are super sexy to me. Photos of fashion models are hotter in a way than pics of naked women. Since I can't seem to find a female partner who likes getting dressed up, I get off by wearing what I'd like to see a woman wear and jerking off in the mirror - sort of creating my fantasy. It's lonely, but it works at some level. It's not about trying to pass as a woman but to emulate their sexiness - to participate in it. I had a brief affair with a woman really got off on it too, and it was great. I felt so free to be myself, and she also loved it, probably for somewhat different reasons. I love femininity and the power of female sexuality and its symbols. I'm now pretty comfortable cross-dressing among other kinksters, but there's still a nagging anxiety that dominant males find me ridiculous or think I'm weak. That's connected with anxiety about being a submissive male in general. Lots of dominant men are totally cool and have no attitude about it, and that's fine. I still wish I had a female partner who was into it - that "perfect dominant" who likes exactly what I like - LOL. | |
| jeff1950 | Posted: 2008-06-07 17:18 | |
Forum Apprentice United States 313 Posts | Guys, some males will often go along with women on anything, just be with them. It does not matter if it is forced or non-forces feminization. Some men get there high from being totally submissive to a woman. There are some women that can talk straight men into total feminization without a sweat. The power of women is incredible. | |
| domina_lisa | Posted: 2008-06-07 23:58 | |
Forum Newbie United States 91 Posts | Why do some heterosexual men feminize themselves? There's several reasons such as: 1) -It's his kink. He's straight but likes dressing up in something soft and feminine. (this could be because he simply likes the way he looks, or the softness of the clothes/panties, or it's a stress reliever for him or he thinks he looks hot when dressed, or it makes him feel more submissive or he likes feeling feminine. Could be any of those or a combination. Each person is different.) He's not interested in forced bi, he just likes forced feminization. 2) -or he's straight and now likes crossdressing because he had a past experience with a woman who liked him dressed and he got hooked. (this doesn't sound like your case though. I think he would have told you if he had) 3) -or he's bi-curious and wants to dress up like a woman and possibly be made to have forced bi sex with a male. 4) -or he's sexually confused and thinks about men alot and wants to try being with a male because he thinks he may be gay (only likes men not women) and being dressed as a female helps him cope with his hidden nature. 5) -or he's transgendered and really wants to be a female. (he may also think that being with a male sexually is the ultimate way for him to prove that he's a woman) 6) he's straight and only dresses up because you want him to and it's your kink not his. he does what pleases his new domme.
Let me say that I've come across just about every one of the above but most of the male subs I know are #1 or #6. (with a few #3's) | |
| Object4myLady | Posted: 2008-06-08 19:12 | |
Forum Initiate United States 2 Posts | Hmm, this is a real interesting topic! I did change gender many yrs ago. I've lived as female for almost 30yrs. I was a strt male, married and GID (gender ID disorder) finally won the battle over my maleness. Without going into all the heartbreak and broken family things I did come full circle in life to live as female. I had gender re-assignment surgery, my breasts are real and I function as female. I dated men that did and did not know my birth gender. it was ok but something was missing. Well, recently I found myself drawn to assertive strong women. (not nessarily Dommes (no offense inplied ladies, really) maybe it's transferance, maybe it's long long pent up feelings of wanting to objectified. I don't know but I did find out what I was missing! my most recent girlfriend that's gone now made me feel things I never felt with men! even a touch on the arm or small of my back was electric! Now we can all argue what I am .. and TS would be the most often label applied to girls like me.. but i'm more.. way more then just a male that was feminized. which of course I did to myself. Now it's late in life. I still look good but feel it's time to find a mature female that I get along with and maybe share a home or something more. why did I need to be feminized? Don't know! but it worked! and i'm happy with that! I don't reccomend it for males that crossdress. although many ts have been CDers and got lost in the submission game. Hopefully many Dommes are aware of the gender ID crisis in some of the subs that see them. I'm new to the site. hope didn't offend anyone. Denise | |
| Ellison | Posted: 2008-06-08 19:30 | |
Forum Maniac United States 29,281 Posts | jeff1950:
Well... they probably do it because that's the trigger that flips their switch. For other men, who have a different trigger, being dominated will cause a reaction ranging from disinterest to disgust with the whole business. I'm never going to find a woman who I would be interested in doing that for, because I'm never going to get any "high" out of it, magnificent or otherwise. Let's please not pretend that it is something that everyone should try. There's nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing especially right about it. It just "is", for those people who are into it... and we should just all be happy whenever we are lucky enough to find our own personal "trigger", feel comfortable enough to embrace it, and find someone to share it with. | |
| Satanaka | Posted: 2008-06-08 21:18 | |
AKA Satan United States 8,504 Posts | tickleobject: Chicag0Lee: _caethes_: jeff1950: You would not believe who asked me that question tonight! Hulk Hogan? Bill O'Reilly? It's lonely being a cannibal. Tough making friends. You know, a little orphan girl once told me that the sun will come out tomorrow. Her adoptive father was a powerful billionaire, so naturally I repressed the urge to laugh in her face. Men seldom make passes at female smart asses. Voodoo! Yes, it's a safe, economical way to inflict evil on the world.
Lokiinanity's Patron Saint of Shoes B.comsville's Minister of Pharmaceutical Agriculture "How come other religions hog up all the good followers and we get all of the retards?" - Rev. John Hagee, modified line from Spawn the Movie | |
| Officepest | Posted: 2008-06-10 07:16 | |
Forum Initiate Korea (North) 19 Posts | heterosexual man self-feminizing is an oxymoron guy in a dress = faggot | |
| dream0bscene | Posted: 2008-06-10 09:01 | |
Forum Newbie United States 52 Posts | Officepest: heterosexual man self-feminizing is an oxymoron guy in a dress = faggot Lose your prejudice and do some research. /Wilde Doubt is an unpleasant condition, but certainty is absurd! -Voltaire | |
| Officepest | Posted: 2008-06-10 12:16 | |
Forum Initiate Korea (North) 19 Posts | dream0bscene: Lose your prejudice and do some research. Suck less cock. | |
| Heaven | Posted: 2008-06-10 22:01 | |
wtf is a forum Moderator United States 704 Posts | keep the personal attacks down and stay on topic -- Sweet dreams are made of these | |
| Autumnmoon | Posted: 2008-06-12 02:05 | |
Forum Apprentice United States 126 Posts | Well, I am not into the head to toe cross-dressing fetish, but I do like the idea of a strong, heterosexual male sub occasionally wearing women's underwear or who enjoys having a strapon used on him. I recently met a man online who identifies as a switch but leans more sub, 90% of his experience is as a Dom but he has been searching for a Domme. He had never worn women's underwear or used a butt plug before, and hadn't thought of doing either. But, he was eager to try both once I brought them up and was surprised to find that he Very much enjoyed both. Not because he has any sort of gay tendencies or anything but because he found that he loved the humiliation of both and that the butt plug felt good. | |
| Officepest | Posted: 2008-06-12 03:58 | |
Forum Initiate Korea (North) 19 Posts | Autumnmoon: Well, I am not into the head to toe cross-dressing fetish, but I do like the idea of a strong, heterosexual male sub occasionally wearing women's underwear or who enjoys having a strapon used on him. I recently met a man online who identifies as a switch but leans more sub, 90% of his experience is as a Dom but he has been searching for a Domme. He had never worn women's underwear or used a butt plug before, and hadn't thought of doing either. But, he was eager to try both once I brought them up and was surprised to find that he Very much enjoyed both. Not because he has any sort of gay tendencies or anything but because he found that he loved the humiliation of both and that the butt plug felt good. Sounds like he's about to burst out of the closet. I predict he will be working as a cabaret drag queen/have aids but this time next year. | |
| Louloupe | Posted: 2008-06-12 07:58 | |
Forum Maniac United States 23,453 Posts | FlwrFirefly: Okay... I understand the whole enjoyment for a man to be forced into being femmed out... But what about the man who asks you to force him to be femmed out? I dated a man years ago who I firmly believe has a sexual identity crisis and I want to know if there is another reason other than latent homosexual tendencies. He had an entire female wardrobe (including shoes) and was thrilled to realize we wore the same size (I'm 5'10" with size 10 shoes so not a big stretch there). He loved it when I made him up but was utterly terrified to exit into the world (even in an area where he wouldn't be noticed and/or recognized at all). He even held on to home video footage of his ex dressed as a man performing anal sex on him dressed up as a woman. He even spoke of trying to find a gay male to join us... as if my being there would be enough of a buffer for him to still tell himself that he is straight. To be honest, he was a great guy... and when we weren't "on" you would never know he had even the most remote of these tendencies. Our relationship quickly deteriorated (it was mostly a friendship with BDSM fun thrown in anyways) because I was completely turned off by this man who seemed to want me around to help him ease into homosexuality. Is there truly any other explanation for behavior like this? Could it have been just curiousity or something else? Many a more extreme forced femme than I could perform? Any alt thoughts or points of view here would be greatly appreciated! I don't know about your ex, but there are some guys who are primarily heterosexual, and still enjoy some form of man-on-man sexual activity, especially if they're doing it to please a female partner. Crossdressing isn't a very good indicator for attraction to men. Lots and lots of crossdressing men are completely heterosexual. A fair number of them find male sexuality revolting - part of their desire to be feminized and play "lesbian girlfriends." Edited by - MistressMiranda on 2008-06-12 08:16:03 | |
| stainsbain | Posted: 2008-06-12 08:08 | |
| Forum Initiate United States 30 Posts | MistressMiranda: Lots of them do it for themselves, because it's fun and it gets them excited. If anything, a crossdresser will hide it for the right woman, if she's not quite so right that she accepts everything about him. agreed | |
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