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| Tarcos | Posted: 2004-10-21 15:41 | |
King of Old School United States 1,821 Posts | How much cost is too much? When do you draw the line? sepia_kitty: FREEDOM always comes at a cost, and this is a small price to pay. My sympathies, AIKEN, to all the Mods, Database Administrators, Programmers, and Web Developers that will have to implement these changes. Also, THANK YOU for your hard work in making this community possible!!!
-- "Mesh-Head: If I were you, I'd run! Buddy: If you were me, you'd be good-looking." -6-String Samurai (Possibly the greatest movie ever) | |
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| erin | Posted: 2004-10-21 15:43 | |
Forum Regular United States 914 Posts | Aiken, Thank you for keeping us informed although the whole situation makes me very sad. I've learned so much from b.com and grown a lot in my knowledge of myself and my desires. I can't imagine it not being around. I sure do hope it doesn't come to that. Keep up the good work! erin | |
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| DarthDarcy | Posted: 2004-10-21 15:49 | |
Forum Maniac United States 13,372 Posts | Hey maybe we should all write the ACLU@aclu.org and sue the bejeezus outta Visa for say 100 billion we could really R@pe, them, seems reasonable they got it, it will effect their shares and also many may seek another userious credit card! 1st Amendment Free Speech cases always scare the crap outta those Pidlofillo Judges! $$$$$$It's the American way!!$$$$$$ DD "They suffer least, who suffer what they choose!"~unknown "When your on thin ice, you may as well dance!" Jesse Winchester | |
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| tjudd | Posted: 2004-10-21 15:56 | |
Forum Maniac United Kingdom 7,492 Posts | This whole saga saddens me greatly. I thought a fundamental foundation of the US consitution was free speach. Blaming VISA is not the answer, they are responding to pressure from some powerful members (blocks) of american society, doing so to look after their shareholders, many of whom will be you/us through the pension/insurance companies and banks we save for our futures with. I think for now we have to support Aitken and the team in what they are doing and hope that the concept of free speach will return to the USA soon.
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| silkenglider | Posted: 2004-10-21 16:15 | |
Forum Slut 1,530 Posts | sepia_kitty: FREEDOM always comes at a cost, and this is a small price to pay. If you have to pay for your freedom, you're not really free. Especially if it's an ongoing payment plan - freedom on credit, there's a concept. -- My Great Ouija Experiment I enjoy being contrary. FREE THE NIPPLES! Brought to you by the makers of my brother | |
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| DarthDarcy | Posted: 2004-10-21 16:24 | |
Forum Maniac United States 13,372 Posts | Visa card holder could unite and send back their cards and replace them with others and also they Visa card holders can sue write the ACLU to start also Al Dershowitiz at alder@harvard.edu forbidding words in this manner like R@pe is just ridiculous! They should be sued Al's gonna kill me for this! DD "They suffer least, who suffer what they choose!"~unknown "When your on thin ice, you may as well dance!" Jesse Winchester Edited by - DarthDarcy on 2004-10-21 16:25:44 | |
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| Flogher | Posted: 2004-10-21 16:40 | |
Forum Slut United Kingdom 1,049 Posts | If you think this is stupid then spare a thought for London's Horniman Museum. [Yes it does exist]. The museum has just discovered it is losing email and internet hits because some filters are reading it as 'horny man'. Stupid but true. Flogher - I cane, I whip, I cuddle | |
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| Jo_LFS | Posted: 2004-10-21 17:06 | |
Moderate Extremist United States 7,074 Posts | librarian: what's stopping you from going to a direct payment system like Paypal? Paypal, to quote from their site from http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside&ed=mature You may not use PayPal in the purchase or sale of, or receipt of donations for, any obscene or sexually oriented goods or services. librarian Hmm... ok, fair enough... but surely there must be simmilar companies around given the enourmous size of the online pay-per-whatever adult material market? | |
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| sksadvntr | Posted: 2004-10-21 17:54 | |
Forum Maniac United States 13,109 Posts | analyticalmaster:Remember the hard core right thinks they are doing what is good for you and the left could give a rats ass. You can blame the hard core right but would do well to remember that they are in league with hard core feminists who view any form of pornography a form of male abuse upon woman! Doubt that. Look up Andrea Dworkin for one. When you are right, there is nothing left! She said I was riggggggggggggghhhhhhht! -- allyin Edited by - sksadvntr on 2004-10-21 17:59:42 | |
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| almostharmless | Posted: 2004-10-21 20:09 | |
Forum Slut United States 1,746 Posts | George Carlin, where are you now that we need you? -- Sterling “When you’re heading for the border, Lord, you’re bound to cross the line" - Kris Kristofferson “He who is not busy being born is busy dying” – Bob Dylan My kink is cool and yours is pervy and disgusting. Can I watch? | |
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| Adba | Posted: 2004-10-21 20:12 | |
| Forum Maniac United States 2,358 Posts | I am confused, if it is the processers making the prolems and not even visa or mastcard, why not change processers? -- __________ jeunesse "Control is his fetish and my addiction." http://www.geocities.com/theslavewithin/ Disclaimer: I can't spell I'm too little  | |
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| almostharmless | Posted: 2004-10-21 20:16 | |
Forum Slut United States 1,746 Posts | I must say there's another thing that has me confused. What happens to the sites that publish information from the Justice Department or one of Ashcroft's rants about internet pornography? Th*s s*tu*tion is cr*p. -- Sterling “When you’re heading for the border, Lord, you’re bound to cross the line" - Kris Kristofferson “He who is not busy being born is busy dying” – Bob Dylan My kink is cool and yours is pervy and disgusting. Can I watch? | |
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| spoiledgrrl | Posted: 2004-10-21 20:23 | |
| Forum Maniac United States 2,489 Posts | Why not direct draft or good old fashioned money orders? A spanking site I am on does direct draft. You could use the bank's routing number rather than a debit card. I am assuming it is just the forums that would be difficult. I also assume the forums do not comprise much of your revenue base. If you ever get to the point where the cost is outweighing the benefits please let me know. Maybe we could work something out in the UK just for the forums, columns and stories if they are the main issue. Regards,
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| Padhraig | Posted: 2004-10-21 20:30 | |
| Forum Apprentice Canada 190 Posts | Western Union? -- Iain "What you cannot enforce, do not command." - Sophocles "They can do all because they think they can." - Virgil "You cannot always control what goes on outside. But you can always control what goes on inside." - Wayne Dyer "He must be very ignorant for he answers every question he is asked." - Voltaire | |
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| Alpha_Geek | Posted: 2004-10-21 21:03 | |
Forum Slut United States 1,058 Posts | aiken: VISA primarily, as interpreted and enforced by the two middlemen between us and the actual VISA conglomerate. My personal opinion is that it's part of a backroom deal with right wing congresspeople to help "clean up the internet" in return for bankruptcy law reform that's favorable to VISA. But that is my personal speculation, based on bits and pieces I've learned over the past few years. Any chance of changing card processing companies to one more accepting of free speech issues? You'd think some sexual advocacy group would be on this like stink on... ummm.. something stinky. A_G I am a Grand Master Geek. I rtfm'ed many service manuals from an ancient but unnamed computer manufacturer in Fort Worth, TX. | |
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