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OTKpassionPosted: 2005-01-05 17:22
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gentlewhispersssPosted: 2005-01-05 17:49
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Sadie....You both have the right technique going but it may take a few more tries but leave only the days between that it takes not to be sore as the first few times it will be sore ...if you have a massage bar or a very good vib that is what worked for me the first times i was doing it ...when you get started you may indeed be so turned on but without realizing it the muscles tense and even the littlest bit will push him outwards and with him pushing back into you it will indeed be harder to adjust ...so find ways to put the focus elsewhere ...as they say find the ying before you do the yang and then do them both at the same time so that your concentration will be drawn away to what it is he is doing ...keep patience Sadie if it is meant to happen it will and at a time you are ready for it ...the most blissful things that happen, do so when the timing is right for both involved and then *chuckles* watch out because the orgasm will be so intense that he will wish he worked out a lil more because you will be breaking his wrist lol ...not really but his wrist will feel it for a couple of days *grins* good luck to you both and hang in there .
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realopheliaPosted: 2005-01-05 18:18
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Sadiesue64:
I want this so much and want to please my Master, how do you overcome the pain to complete the entire act of fisting.

I find that pushing (toward the fist) helps. I usually start out doing it to 'get it over with' but end up doing it because I enjoy it.

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Jeff_and_hopePosted: 2005-01-05 18:58
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I was bending over a couch arm with my head on Master's lap.. and had this hottie chick playing with me... and his stroking my hair and whispering in my ear, it helped me to focus on him and not the pain,and then when she went to go in past her knuckles, then i had someone to hold me down..lol... and then it was all good again
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Mister_FisterPosted: 2005-01-05 19:07
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How long, and how regularly, have you been at this? It can take many, many sessions, training daily, depending on your internal layout. Lots of lube, lots of practice, and intimate stretchy activities are the name of the game. Practice makes perfect!

And do not see it as a goal, but a destination-you need to relax and not disappointed. And understand you may not be able to take a full hand-I had a playmate whose hip bones were simply too close together, and no matter the position or angle, My knuckles simply wedged up against her pelvic bones. To get past that would require the sort of training and practices to reshape bones, much more intensive, requiring long periods of uncomfortable dialation. So I switched to training her for anal fisting instead;)


Sadiesue64:
I would like to know the secret to fisting. My Master and I have been trying it and we get so close but then the pain becomes unbearable and I have to ask him to stop. I want this so much and want to please my Master, how do you overcome the pain to complete the entire act of fisting. We have used lots of lub and my Master tells me that we come so close to having his fist all the way inside me. Please tell me the secret. I know there must be one.


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masterdave_wiPosted: 2005-01-05 19:32
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nightmans:
i have done this a few time i found some woman are just to small (not deep enuff)and outher and pull your hole arm in but slow and relxa get your self worked up as well that take some of the pain away

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i found if you go in flat hand and make fist in side it's much easyer

Edited by - nightmans on 2005-01-05 08:14:54


Absolutely! If you go in flat handed starting with just one finger, then two, then three, then four, then thumb and only then start working towards a fist, the stretching is gradual. Also the act of drawing the fingers in presses against the g-spot, which helps also. Finally, making the fist inside avoids trying to press through the vaginal opening, which is usually smaller, tighter and less flexible than the inside of the vagina.

I also have once encountered a woman who wanted to be fisted, but just wasn't built in a way that made it possible to complete the act. My hand ran up against a "ring" of pelvic bone that just would only let so much pass without breaking. The lady said, "your hand must be able to get the rest of the way in. I've had kids!" I just moved onto another activity. I didn't want to point out that during childbirth the pelvic bone actually separates to allow the head through."

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erottasubPosted: 2005-01-05 19:43
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Fisting is a huge act of submission. It was very hard for me at first. i wanted to share a few things that made it easier for me. Hopefully it will help. Try a synthetic lube, "Wet Platinum" is the one i have found to last the longest and stays slick. Water based lube tends to evaporate and gets sticky. You also might want to take a very warm bath before you try it; the heat tends to relax the muscles & you, making it a little easier. Something that my Master said about training me i also wanted to mention, at first he stayed away from clitoral stimulation. He said that it made it more difficult. The stimulation caused contractions which tightened my vagina, not making it easier. Everyone says that patience is important, and i totally agree, but something else that i also found helpful was when Master talked to me. He started by telling me how much i needed it, he told me how much it would please him, finally, making me beg for it. This was useful for building my desire for it mentally and increased my personal lubrication (of course i respond to this type of stimulation very well). You also might want to try a distraction technique, like having clamps on your nipples or something that focuses you elsewhere while he is gently working into you. i thought we would never succeeded at first, it was very hard, but now after much training, it is so much easier (in fact, he calls me a little fist slut!). A thing to caution you on, however, the first time we got it in all of the way, i clamped down on his fist so tight that it was stuck there for a while. If that happens, the worst thing that he could have done would be to try to pull it out. We had to wait for the muscles to relax again before he could remove his fist. Master also said to mention that the had position he uses is not the duck bill, but curled fingers with the palm flat, the thumb is fitted into the curl of the index finger and he leads with that knuckle. He also never used his dominant hand at first. For instance if your Master is Right handed, he should try his left hand, it wont be as large as his right. Good luck, i hope you succeed, it is really worth it.

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masterfisterPosted: 2005-01-07 07:14
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finally got to read the posts. like to read the trails and tribulations of recepiantes. once you have taken the fist and you have achived your big O TURN OVER AND GET INTO THE DOG STYLE position let your love take your fist again but let her do the work with you adding the twisting motion this will help her into accepting you fully. her body will tell you when she has had enough. roll her over kiss her tell her how great she was. hold her touch her kiss her some more very deep dirty sluty kisses she will love you and your fist forever!
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chainmailguyPosted: 2005-01-07 10:41
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Sadiesue64:
I would like to know the secret to fisting. My Master and I have been trying it and we get so close but then the pain becomes unbearable and I have to ask him to stop. I want this so much and want to please my Master, how do you overcome the pain to complete the entire act of fisting. We have used lots of lub and my Master tells me that we come so close to having his fist all the way inside me. Please tell me the secret. I know there must be one.

Have him work on your G-spot. This will help loosen you up. Working on the clitoris will have the opposite effect, and should be saved for when his fist is in.
Lotsa lotsa lotsa lube, lotsa lotsa lotsa time. And relax. When you start getting tense and anxious, you've got to have a signalling system so he can put you at ease. If he can read your anxiety and try something else for a bit, this will go a long way.

Also, concentrate on the journey instead of the destination. Doesn't it feel nice to have him working his way in there?

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Sadiesue64Posted: 2005-01-09 06:07
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I would like to thank you all for all your wonderful advice. I will share all of this with my Master and see which techniques he likes and see where we go from there. I guess part of the problem is we wait quite a long time between sessions. We need to concentrate on baby steps more often. lol. Thank you again. You are all wonderful
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mstrdan5011Posted: 2005-01-09 07:16
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Wonderful thread, lots of good advice her. Ive done a good bit of fisting, watched others do it, and discussed techniques with fellow fisting enthusiasts (of both genders) in my own community. But, I picked some new information/technique tidbits from this thread.

I have also found a "sticking point" can be with the birds head shaped inserted hand reaching maxiumum depth, and then having to begin to curl the fingers before the base of the thumb has slipped all the way into the pussy. The hand/fist expands, and it can be difficult to get that last bit in to fully engulf the hand.

I have also found body positions can help or hinder. With one girl I introduced to fisting, we had our easiest (and best) with it ever using a sling in a dungeon. Her orgasmic contractions with my fist inside her were amazingly powerful, felt like it was going to dislocate my wrist! I have noted some of the other position suggestions made on this thread.

In discussing the "folding the fingers" difficulty with a Domme friend (just after watching her do a fisting on another girl at a party) she suggested I try going in "palm down". I had always gone in "palm up", in part because I wanted my fingers able to stroke the G-spot. She had found that palm down would sometimes give her more room to curl the fingers to complete the insertion. Ive never tried "palm sideways" or "thumb up" and have noted those (tho I will do slow gentle rotations of the hand during fisting, looking for that "magic position" and generating sensations).

Ive also found the pelvic bone, the opening, to be a constraint on a number of girls, more than the plasticity of the tissues, the "stretching".

My expectation, which this thread seems to support, is besides patience, practice, and LUBE, there are just going to always be wide anatomical differences, and a need for experimentation as to positions (both for the fistee and the fist) to find what works best for YOU.

Dan

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ReinarPosted: 2005-01-10 16:35
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Lots of good information, hints, and clues, as well as personal insight, desire, devotion, submission, and experience (on both sides of success and failure).

In my past, fisting has been and will remain into my future, a high level of submission from and control over a sub. It has come when time was of little to no concern, and stimulation (whole body) was most likely the key to success, but at the same time, body type and size, internal layout, and lubrication are a HUGE part, or were at least. I will have to admit, that smaller women hands are easier, and should most likely be attempted first.

warm bath/hot tub, body massage, lots of play with lubrication, lots of near orgasmic stimulation so that any touch caused personal lubrication as well as external lube.

All were fun, even the "failures" to reach the desired goal of full fisting, sometimes its not the destination but the journey that is the most fun and pleasing.

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RebeccaRaynePosted: 2005-01-10 16:47
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Hmmmm.......i don't know, never done it. i do, however, have many Dom friends that do it frequently, and would be more than happy to give You a hands on/in demonstration. *eg*
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dmodeskittyPosted: 2005-01-10 19:18
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when strictlywicked fists me he uses a latex glove lots of and LOTS of lube. I lay down on my back and he waits till I am relaxed. He plays with me a little moving each finger in slowly and tells me what a slut I am and that maybe one day he can try to fist my ass because hes sure I can take it

i agree with him
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SweetSubMandiPosted: 2005-01-26 13:31
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