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BPPosted: 2002-09-17 03:25
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Yeah, most everybody got it right by definition but missed the most important element. In these days of AIDS and various other blood borne diseases, this is now likely THE MOST HIGH RISK form of play.

Bent Peter

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LittleWickedPosted: 2002-09-17 07:31
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[quote]Yeah, most everybody got it right by definition but missed the most important element. In these days of AIDS and various other blood borne diseases, this is now likely THE MOST HIGH RISK form of play.

Bent Peter

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<font color=red> Everything in this lifestyle carries an element of risk, some higher risk than others...but again Safety, Sanity and Consent prevail with most who are educated, experienced and committed as evidenced by the very high degree of intelligent people who post to these threads.

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vixen </font id=red>


<font color=pink> exactly what she said! Brava! Well said vixen and thank you! *smiles </font id=pink>


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sparkle_BGD333Posted: 2002-09-17 12:30
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Thanks guys - I was surprised to see how many people didn't mention HIV as a concern - although I respect the comments about the SSC aspect, and that some people have regular tests.

The finger painting has caused a few 'yucks' and smiles! lol. To be honest I was thinking it was more along the lines of deliberate cutting as opposed to whipping so I have learned from this.

For those that have a limit on it, do you see yourself lifting that at any point if challenged or tested?

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sparkle_BGD333Posted: 2002-09-17 12:31
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Thanks guys - I was surprised to see how many people didn't mention HIV as a concern - although I respect the comments about the SSC aspect, and that some people have regular tests.(Obviously a major concern would be casual play or public play parties)

The finger painting has caused a few 'yucks' and smiles! lol. To be honest I was thinking it was more along the lines of deliberate cutting as opposed to whipping so I have learned from this.

For those that have a limit on it, do you see yourself lifting that at any point if challenged or tested?

angel....sub to Master Nemesis

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CeliesePosted: 2002-09-17 13:39
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Thanks guys - I was surprised to see how many people didn't mention HIV as a concern - although I respect the comments about the SSC aspect, and that some people have regular tests.

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I didn't mention it because I guess to me it's a no-brainer.
You don't DO such a potentially dangerous thing with someone
who hasn't been tested. but, unless you insist on seeing
the paperwork yourself, the trust factor has to come into play.
HIV is only one concern, hepatitis is another, and there are a
few other blood-born diseases too that I can't recall offhand.


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the_lextressPosted: 2002-09-18 01:33
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BPPosted: 2002-09-18 02:43
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Thank you Celiese and lextress!

Disrespect?

vixen, you didn't disrepect Me.

you disrepected yourself.

Testing every six months My ass!

Just how many people did you endangered within the last five months?

I'm not merely warning newbies.

I'm warning you.

An old Chevy Chase and Jane Curtain exchange from Saturday Night keeps comming to mind.

Some blood borne pathogens such as HIV may incubate, and I've been told, may virtually pass as undetectable for up to six years.

Trust?

Give Me six years or more of stable relationship and then we can start talking about you being trustworthy enough for real slicing and dicing bloodplay.

Do I engage in bloodplay?

I'm a frigg'n vampire and have been for ages.

Bent Peter

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sparkle_BGD333Posted: 2002-09-18 12:40
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Did I think this topic would open up this sort of reaction? - truthfully, no.

Not something I have ever indulged in, but I would certainly worry about public play with any other play partner, as Peter says that you have not known at least for a substancial amount of time. Playing publicly involving whipping etc would raise major issues if the whip has been used elsewhere and traces of blood remain on it.

I know from a demo I attended with Victor Tella of the ability of a bull whip or smaller single tails, and the thought of someone not being aware of who that whip has drawn blood on, or indeed how many times etc is a very scary thought.

This is going deeper into and beyond the realm of SSC now, as you just cannot know in public play of these details. In private play fair enough, but should you be passed even to Dom/mes you know, their health history may be fine, but what of the subs they have played with and drawn blood on?

It is this sort of issue that newbies should be aware of, protecting themselves and their health. You may deam it sane and consensual, as for safe ? - well you may well know the whippee, but not their whipping history as it were.


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ChemEngPosted: 2002-09-18 18:03
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Personally, blood play is any form of play that draws blood. It can include heavier needle scenes, like the ones that uses zippers or needle corsets, or abrasion play, like heavy spanking with the bristle side of a stiff brush, or cutting.

Anytime it is intended to draw blood, from whatever kind of play, I consider it blood play and go into My blood play rituals.

Scot

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Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power."
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ChemEngPosted: 2002-09-19 13:41
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Unless you are lifetime fluid manogamous, I would be scared to death of what I just read. I really would. If it works for you, thats fine. I guess. You know the risks and if you are willing accept the consequences of them. then more power to you. I guess.

I would just make damn sure that the people that you play with in the future are fully aware of the extremely risky behaviour you are indulging in now. You have a responsibility to those that you play with in the future to make sure that they have the same opportunity to make an educated decision about what they will or will not be exposed to. Anything else is non-consentual and I would consider it very similar to rape.

Scot

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AzraelPosted: 2002-09-20 09:55
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Let me put it this way, Celiese will probably be Mrs. (Insert My Last Name Here) by the time we get around to it. So much else to do and so little time on our schedules....

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doreiPosted: 2002-09-20 18:08
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I do bloodsports with my Master, and him alone. Do I get tested for STD's every six months? Why bother? At this stage in our lives, we're monogamous. He's agreed that should he want to seek outside the relationship, he'd follow safe sex practices.

We've been together for 2 years. Unless one of us contracted the HIV that waits 5 years to show up, I believe we're safe. If we did, well, it's a bit late now as we don't use condoms with us. I'm spayed so it's not like I need to avoid pregnancy.

As for our definition of blood sports, like most everyone has said, it's any play where the intent to play with blood or cause it to be drawn. That would mean needles, cuttings, flogging/whipping with intent to bleed, and yes, menstrual play (which to me is icky and I'm glad Master's not into it.)

Knife play where the idea is to just have a knife against the flesh without intent to cut is not blood play, just a nice mind fuck.


Dorei
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