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I found this forum by doing a search on "BDSM + beg." My Master lives a long distance from me, so we often play together on the phone. He often tells me to beg, and when I do, he says, "That's not good enough."

So, I have two questions. What are some specific phrases that are used when begging?

And.. in this thread, some of you said that you have to want something pretty badly in order to beg for it. So what do you do if your Master wants you to beg for something, and you don't want it badly enough to beg for it?

I find that place n my head that's about doing as he asks. It's actually irrelevant to me whether I want the thing enough to beg, it's that he wants the begging that's important.

Sometimes he will make me beg for something I DON'T want, that's really hard but I find that same spot in my head that's about him not me.
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As always excellent advice, and it's also something I try to do. There are times, however, for me at least, when he's pushing for something incredibly difficult, and then he usually plants a seed so that I *can* and *will* beg on another day. Those times when I simply cant bring myself to beg and mean it, and I cant find my head space that allows me to do it purely because he is asking for it, he will tell me that one day I *will* beg for it, because it will make him happy for me to do "X"...

And he is always right.

I have gotten past more "walls" this way than any other... He will almost taunt me with the idea and I'll be damned if I am not begging for it by week's end.

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"Dominance is such an odd state of affairs. Done well, it balances on a knife's edge between narcissism and selflessness"

"Well, POOP I say!"

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But he always can tell when I'm stuck, and then he guides me over the wall. Just one of the reasons I'm with him.
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Since this is on the phone, - I presume you get some kicks out of it also. When he tells you "That's not good enough" - don't take literally. He just wants to hear you beg some more. You can say things like "I cling to Your hips, Master...I am not worthy of Your presence, Sir....I kneel down with my face on the floor and am licking your boots...I am worthless...less than a dog...."
Things like that.
...Of course, since it's a phone conversation, you always have the option of faking a headache, or something like that - and hanging up..
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I have this boy I play with, mostly on the phone since I'm in VT and he's in PA, but I swear when he says please sometimes I get an instant slicky. Something in the way he says it, this small pitiful voice so full of yearning, just does it for me. I'll make him say it over and over. (hmmmm I wonder if he's awake yet.)

Or I fake it til I make it. Sometimes as a Top this is also want I want from my submissive. I know it isn't something they really want, but I want them to keep looking for that spot that makes it real. It's in a sense away of programming. If you say something enough times you can start to believe it. So when I say it's not good enough, I'm trying to push them farther into it.

You do have to know your victim, opps I mean submissive, before you can do that. Some people it just doesn't work on.

I also think communication is the key. If something doesn't work, you should say something, try to find out what he wants. Maybe he's just purposely setting you up to fail. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your kink.
-Liv

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Well behaved women seldom make history.

"I don't have any plans - just a great outfit and bad intentions." -Sundayhangover.
Edited to add more detail, and clarify a few things.

Edited by - Livany on 2007-09-18 05:26:33

I have the same problem with begging, its not pride but reality that stops me.
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Man stands in his own shadow and wonders why it is dark..... Zen proverb