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Miss_Katie_SPosted: 2008-06-23 02:47
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I am technically not in a BDSM relationship as my lovely (but oh so vanilla) man is not interested. I keep finding myself trying to trick him into being more dominating, such as by "accidently" getting stuck in awkward positions to see if he'd take advantage of me with a quick spank or something. (He has a couple of times!)

More and more I've just been trying to get him into play fighting or struggling by pinching his nipple or something. He has pinned me down for a bit of light-hearted payback and I've always really enjoyed it. I think he does too but he never takes it further or initiates anything.

I'm pretty sure this isn't the best thing to be doing but he doesn't ever get seem to mind and I'm not sure what else to do that won't scare him off.

It's wrong isn't it?!

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BossMan4uPosted: 2008-06-23 02:49
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you are so going to hell
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HartOgoIdPosted: 2008-06-23 06:10
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Sounds like you are attempting to manipulate him into doing and being what you really want. How about instead you try communicating your desires to him?

Personally, if I can manipulate a man, I quickly lose interest.
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LouloupePosted: 2008-06-23 07:28
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I don't think it's particularly wrong, just frustrating in the long run.
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zloverPosted: 2008-06-23 07:39
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I see nothing wrong and it seems playful at best. What's the difference between you trying to playfully test his kink in this manner, and a guy playfully pinning his girl's arms above her head to see if she digs it?

However, this kind of playfulness usually doesn't result in your relationship dynamic miraculously transforming, so best just to be upfront and talk about it. He may want it too ....

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limperPosted: 2008-06-23 07:59
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zlover:
I see nothing wrong and it seems playful at best. What's the difference between you trying to playfully test his kink in this manner, and a guy playfully pinning his girl's arms above her head to see if she digs it?

However, this kind of playfulness usually doesn't result in your relationship dynamic miraculously transforming, so best just to be upfront and talk about it. He may want it too ....



Quoted because Zlover is right.

Nothing wrong with what you are doing, just dont get your hopes up too high.
May I also suggest "I've been a very naughty girl!" or "You are so strong! I love it when you pin me and take me!"
Magic words to me have always been (pleading eyes) "Please fuck me til I hurt"

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LouloupePosted: 2008-06-23 09:26
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zlover:
I see nothing wrong and it seems playful at best. What's the difference between you trying to playfully test his kink in this manner, and a guy playfully pinning his girl's arms above her head to see if she digs it?

However, this kind of playfulness usually doesn't result in your relationship dynamic miraculously transforming, so best just to be upfront and talk about it. He may want it too ....


It sounds like they've already talked about it. She says he isn't interested.

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marvin_not_so_badPosted: 2008-06-23 10:11
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Don't hide your true manner. It is best to be upfront and immediately disclose your full desires.
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zloverPosted: 2008-06-23 10:41
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zlover:
I see nothing wrong and it seems playful at best. What's the difference between you trying to playfully test his kink in this manner, and a guy playfully pinning his girl's arms above her head to see if she digs it?

However, this kind of playfulness usually doesn't result in your relationship dynamic miraculously transforming, so best just to be upfront and talk about it. He may want it too ....


It sounds like they've already talked about it. She says he isn't interested.


My interpretation of her post is she is trying to get him to play more, maybe in the hopes of a more formal dynamic. I don't see it as manipulation, just playful testing.

I wanted nothing to do with a full-blown BDSM relationship at first either. The more I tasted, especially playing, the more I wanted in play and in a relationship. Some do, some don't.

He seems somewhat interested in play anyway, if nothing else.

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Bad_IdeaPosted: 2008-06-23 11:41
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Oh, for fuck's sake! Talk to the man. Otherwise, you are wasting your time and his. You won't be happy if he isn't really into what you are and he is wasting his time with you because he isn't really making you happy.

Sounds like childish games to me.

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Qwerty789Posted: 2008-06-23 12:26
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Rather than approach it relatively cold not that I want to critisize I can't fault you I would do the similar myself with a woman, I like how you pinched his nipples to piss him off a bit, that can work.

Maybe try to combine the kink with real life descreet power struggles to get him into it?

For instance if a female was staying up late and non-offensively denigrated herself for this, saying something like "I will have to send you to bed early next time" might make it more pallatable, possibly followed next time by something like "I will have to send you to bed with a spank".

I suppose from the angle of a female sub you could wait till you make some kind of incidental harmless infraction then follow his mutual agreement that you should or shouldnt have done whatever it was, with a suggestion that you be spanked or punished.

This way you are making a connection between what are normal and healthy issues in the reality of the relationship with kink making it more pallatable I wouldn't be suprised if you where trying that already, all be it that persistence in itself probably won't work and might have the opposite effect.

Otherwise I have no idea I hope things work out for you.

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_angelfire_Posted: 2008-06-23 12:33
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HartOgoId:
Sounds like you are attempting to manipulate him into doing and being what you really want. How about instead you try communicating your desires to him?

Personally, if I can manipulate a man, I quickly lose interest.



Me too.
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DcoupleSPosted: 2008-06-23 12:49
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I'm not sure what job he has - but both extreme have their problems - if he is in a physical demanding job ( heavy construction ) he might be concerned that slapping your ass as he does the 2x4'S might break the relationship or your back bone - the other extreme is if he has a job where he needs to be extreme polite - and can't slip out of his skin. In both aspects - good communication will help - in the physical aspect you might challenge him if it is all he has left on energy - till you have the force you desire.
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fire6brandPosted: 2008-06-23 13:31
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Don't wrestle with him, dance with him. Teach him to dance with you. If you like him, give it time.

Entice his aggressiveness. Feed him with your guiding sexual submissiveness. Tried cock worship? Try linking your fingers with his at the nape of your neck and begin gently pressing with him his cock into your throat. Gauge this, he should give you the signs, fuck him with your throat more aggressively... i.e., invoke drooling and gagging. I'm going to recommend the required non-waterproof mascara for this, but your probably already know that_wink He might love a tear streaked doll pleasing him to the point of gagging herself on his cock and just not know it. What else... run his fingers along where your lips are stretched around him. Show him. Keep watching for signs. Hmmm... if you're dressed (and if you are dressed this is subconsciously obviously all about him) ask him if you may touch yourself, say please, manners are sexy. When he answers, deep throat him so that he's not able to be the gentleman and help. Start pushing your jeans and panties down around your knees for that hobbled feeling. Show him how much you love what he's doing to your mouth. Intermittently smacking your pussy will show him that you like that too. Do not proceed to intercourse! Not this round. I think this time he should come in your face, mouth, throat. After his orgasm, clean his cock thoroughly. Lick away every trace of your ministrations. Smile up at him with your pretty tear streaked submissive face.


and report back_wink
Good luck!



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sugarannespicePosted: 2008-06-23 13:41
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I agree with fire6brand's post, especially "Entice his aggressiveness", and all the yummy suggestions afterwards.

Although talking has its place, there's ways to communicate physically that can be pretty compelling. I'm mentioning this because I've been with vanilla men who intellectualized D/s as "OMG that's so sick/violent/wrong" etc. but loved D/s play. Their bodies didn't lie.

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jezebel222Posted: 2008-06-23 13:52
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HartOgoId:
Personally, if I can manipulate a man, I quickly lose interest.
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This is soooooooooooooo true for me too. Damn them.
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But I would not want you any other way.
Just not enough.
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy."~Tool

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