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Aersm4erPosted: 2009-06-29 09:18
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I've posted here before, now I have a few new questions.

I'm a very new submissive. My dominant is very patient and gentle with my training. But there are a few things on my mind and I'm not sure how to tell him.

1)We live about an hour away from each other. Seeing each other is often difficult so I've asked if it was possible to still dominate me long listance. Meaning, I still want demands while we are apart. He says yes, and he gives me a few orders but it's not consistent enough.

2)When we are together, I don't want him to be quite so 'gentle'. I realize he's just trying to train me slowly. But, I know I need a more aggressive dominant and not sure how to tell him that.

How do I correct this?

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MagdalenePosted: 2009-06-29 09:40
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It's not necessarily something you can "correct." You can, and should, tell him how you feel. But it's up to him what he does with that.

Master and I lived about three hours apart. We saw each other frequently, but those times apart were still hard. He gave me a lot of direction during those times apart, and I found it very helpful, so I understand where you are coming from. If your Dom has been inconsistent about doing this, it may be that it just isn't very satisfying for him to give orders that he's not around to see carried out. Maybe you can work out some sort of a schedule for you to follow. For instance, I had to email Master at set times, and I had to keep a journal that I had to email Him every day. And whenever we were together, before we separated, we went over what my schedule would be like while we were apart. He would instruct me then. See if your Dom would be willing to do something like this. However, you're the sub. You have to be willing to accept his decision about it.

As far as wanting him to be more agressive with you, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. You may just be dealing with his personality. Again, tell him what you feel and what you want, but you may not get what you want. Part of being the sub is letting him set the lead.

Magdalene

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_GhostPosted: 2009-06-29 14:40
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Telling him how you feel is the only way to make progress.
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AlcyoneusPosted: 2009-06-29 15:41
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Telling him how you feel is the only way to make progress.

What he said.

My thought is you should be tediously specific too. "If I make a mistake I want you to hit me hard on the ass three or four times with a paddle such that it leaves red marks, and . . ." or whatever. Then when you have told him, shut up and accept whatever he feels like doing. If you don't, then exactly who is dominating whom becomes confusing. Even if tedious explicitness is exactly the wrong thing to do with him, if you only do it once he'll probably forgive you. I think pouting and hinting and whining over a period of time without explaining exactly what is on your mind would piss just about anyone off a lot more.

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MagdalenePosted: 2009-06-29 16:57
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Alcyoneus:

My thought is you should be tediously specific too. "If I make a mistake I want you to hit me hard on the ass three or four times with a paddle such that it leaves red marks, and . . ." or whatever.



Umm, this may work for some. I will say that if I tried to tell my Master exactly how He should punish me, well, He would be very annoyed. He would definitely not take this type of instruction from me.

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AlcyoneusPosted: 2009-06-29 17:08
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Magdalene:

Alcyoneus:

My thought is you should be tediously specific too. "If I make a mistake I want you to hit me hard on the ass three or four times with a paddle such that it leaves red marks, and . . ." or whatever.



Umm, this may work for some. I will say that if I tried to tell my Master exactly how He should punish me, well, He would be very annoyed. He would definitely not take this type of instruction from me.

Magdalene


Yes you are right.

When new at bdsm, some people tend to be a little coy, a little shy about what they want. Tt the initial stages of a relationship, being very explicit about expectations can help. And I was only saying to do that once. I am not arguing with you though. Some couples have an immediate rapport and understanding of what is expected.

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PixiePosted: 2009-06-29 21:03
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As for the distance thing... he obviously has his own life to live, as do you. Perhaps his inconsistency while away from you is allowing him to pay attention to the things that he needs to in order to give you his full concentration when the two of you are actually together in person.

When you do spend time together tell him straight out he doesn't need to go as easy on you as he has been. Perhaps that you want to be pushed a bit, and that you will let him know if it gets to be too much. He is probably trying to be very careful not to overstep boundaries or scare you off... sometimes a little reassurance from the submissive tends to help with things like that. =)
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NASHVILLEDOMPosted: 2009-06-29 21:22
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Aersm4er:


2)When we are together, I don't want him to be quite so 'gentle'. I realize he's just trying to train me slowly. But, I know I need a more aggressive dominant and not sure how to tell him that.

How do I correct this?


First of all correct is the wrong word to use.

Now to achieve what you want you may resort to the traffic signals. (lot easier then conversation which may be difficult for some)

When I am with a new one that may be or is a keeper if I think she had all she could take I ask her how do you feel. Red of cource would be enough, Yellow just right and green sock it to me. (give me some more/jack it up a notch or two)

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nursedianePosted: 2009-06-29 21:49
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Aersm4er:
I've posted here before, now I have a few new questions.

I'm a very new submissive. My dominant is very patient and gentle with my training. But there are a few things on my mind and I'm not sure how to tell him.

1)We live about an hour away from each other. Seeing each other is often difficult so I've asked if it was possible to still dominate me long listance. Meaning, I still want demands while we are apart. He says yes, and he gives me a few orders but it's not consistent enough.

2)When we are together, I don't want him to be quite so 'gentle'. I realize he's just trying to train me slowly. But, I know I need a more aggressive dominant and not sure how to tell him that.

How do I correct this?


I've tried "retraining" a dom. Be careful what you wish for.
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Mistress_DezPosted: 2009-06-30 23:53
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My solution: Tell him straight out how you're feeling.

Besides, maybe he's holding back for a reason.
He may want to surprise you one day or he may fear that if he uses his full potential of power you wouldn't be able to handle it,but that's where the "traffic signals" come in.
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daddyslilonePosted: 2009-07-01 04:55
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go ahead and talk to him about your desires, but remember, if he chooses not to follow your lead, it's because i'm sure he has more important things to do then to bark orders to you long-distance, such as working for a living and living his life...

not everyone is wired to or wishes to take 24/7 control; kind of takes the fun out of things and is work in and of itself.
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barebackgirlPosted: 2009-07-02 02:12
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Do you two have any kind of contract or list of negotiated rules (even just a list of hard limits/soft limits)?

If so, it may be time to request a re-evaluation. This will open up an opportunity for you to say, "I feel that when you do X, I don't get enough Y." Be sure to phrase things in a non-confrontational fashion ("I feel...," "I think...," etc.) rather than an accusatory tone ("You never...," "You always...," etc.)

Perhaps he has his reasons for taking things slow and gentle with you. It's important to talk it out, and find out those reasons--or at least find out that they exist--so you don't feel arbitrarily neglected.

Just my two cents.

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arizona_boundPosted: 2009-07-02 07:11
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Telling him how you feel is the only way to make progress.
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aslandiaPosted: 2009-07-02 07:58
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I would have little to no luck getting him to dominate me the way *I* want to be dominated. It's my responsibility to conform to his life, his wants, his desires, his way of doing things. If I had not wanted it that way I would have been gone long ago.

My concern is my submission. I keep my eyes in front of myself and work on what is my business. This is much more fulfilling for me. And I always have something to work on. If I find myself unsatisfied with the way he does something often looking to my own self solves the issue.

And if I don't like it? Well, really? Tough shit. I'll get over it. tehehe That's what I signed up for... being his submissive.
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neo10Posted: 2009-07-02 08:31
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aslandia:
I would have little to no luck getting him to dominate me the way *I* want to be dominated. It's my responsibility to conform to his life, his wants, his desires, his way of doing things. If I had not wanted it that way I would have been gone long ago.

My concern is my submission. I keep my eyes in front of myself and work on what is my business. This is much more fulfilling for me. And I always have something to work on. If I find myself unsatisfied with the way he does something often looking to my own self solves the issue.

And if I don't like it? Well, really? Tough shit. I'll get over it. tehehe That's what I signed up for... being his submissive.


I wish this was better understood.
There is so much of the 'what I need him to do so that I can feel my submission' attitude out there.

You've nailed it aslandia. I can't imagine me advising HT on how to dom me.

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Aersm4erPosted: 2009-07-02 10:15
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Magdalene:
It's not necessarily something you can "correct." You can, and should, tell him how you feel. But it's up to him what he does with that.

Master and I lived about three hours apart. We saw each other frequently, but those times apart were still hard. He gave me a lot of direction during those times apart, and I found it very helpful, so I understand where you are coming from. If your Dom has been inconsistent about doing this, it may be that it just isn't very satisfying for him to give orders that he's not around to see carried out. Maybe you can work out some sort of a schedule for you to follow. For instance, I had to email Master at set times, and I had to keep a journal that I had to email Him every day. And whenever we were together, before we separated, we went over what my schedule would be like while we were apart. He would instruct me then. See if your Dom would be willing to do something like this. However, you're the sub. You have to be willing to accept his decision about it.

As far as wanting him to be more agressive with you, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. You may just be dealing with his personality. Again, tell him what you feel and what you want, but you may not get what you want. Part of being the sub is letting him set the lead.

Magdalene


Ok, I think Im having a tough time communicating things to him. When Ive tried, he's either non-responsive or takes the meaning wrong.

I mean that I need more demands. I need to be controlled more. When he doesn't give me the demands that I crave, it makes me feel like he doesn't care. Shouldn't a dominant know that's important without my having to tell him? Or does it mean he really doesn't care?

He wants me to be able to communicate things well. But its all so new to me and there's many feelings going at once. It's hard to capture them all and express them with accuracy. I think its causing him to misinterpret my submission. That bothers me.

I wish there was someone I could talk to more privately about this stuff.

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