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bondagedreamrPosted: 2009-07-03 08:54
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It occurred to me that I could use advice on safety. I believe I understand safe words -- I say agreed upon word and we stop. I believe it is common to let someone know where I will be and arrange a call-in schedule -- is this 'safe calls'? What else should I know?

BTW what should a person do when there is no one to place calls to that won't get all nosy and maybe judgmental about what is going on? I don't want to stay vanilla all my life.

Please help,

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barebackgirlPosted: 2009-07-03 12:47
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Many of the more popular books on our subject (S&M 101 by Wiseman, Screw the Roses Send Me the Thorns, etc.) go over safety mechanisms in some detail. But here are a few important rules that I've survived by:

1) Never give your personal information, or any information you can be tracked by, until you've gotten to know and trust the person. In person--NOT via email.

2) Have that first meeting in a busy location--like the Starbucks at a mall--and even if he's the nicest, sweetest guy in the world, keep the date from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, and don't let him follow you out to your car/bus. Buy your own coffee, and don't let it out of your sight.

3) If you think someone might have followed you home from a date, especially if it's someone that sets off your Creep Meter, run a few errands and head over to a friend's house afterwards. You don't have to explain why you're there.

4) Listen to your instincts. Gavin de Becker, in his magnificent book The Gift of Fear, tells us that nine times out of ten, our gut knows something's wrong before our brain does.

5) You don't have to explain to a friend why you need a safecall. You can simply say you're on a blind date and you want to check in with him/her. Set up a code phrase to be used in emergencies only--with my safecall friend, it was "Damn Yankees" --so that she would know I was in trouble and needed help.

6) Any Dom who gets angry at you for being concerned for your health and safety on a first meeting/first date is not a Dom, or at least not the Dom for you. A good Dom will give you all the time you need to become comfortable and trust Him, because He knows once you trust Him, then He can do the terrible things He wants to do to you, and keep doing them. _evil

Hope that helps a little. I'm sure others will give much better and more thorough advice; but that's my little two cents on the matter.

- bg

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bondagedreamrPosted: 2009-07-03 15:28
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Thank you, barebackgirl, for the advice and the reference material. Many blessings and be well.

Edited by - bondagedreamr to show true appreciation on 2009-07-03 23:25:47

Edited by - bondagedreamr on 2009-07-03 23:28:46

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dhalialilyPosted: 2009-07-03 20:43
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barebackgirl:
Many of the more popular books on our subject (S&M 101 by Wiseman, Screw the Roses Send Me the Thorns, etc.) go over safety mechanisms in some detail. But here are a few important rules that I've survived by:

1) Never give your personal information, or any information you can be tracked by, until you've gotten to know and trust the person. In person--NOT via email.

2) Have that first meeting in a busy location--like the Starbucks at a mall--and even if he's the nicest, sweetest guy in the world, keep the date from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, and don't let him follow you out to your car/bus. Buy your own coffee, and don't let it out of your sight.

3) If you think someone might have followed you home from a date, especially if it's someone that sets off your Creep Meter, run a few errands and head over to a friend's house afterwards. You don't have to explain why you're there.

4) Listen to your instincts. Gavin de Becker, in his magnificent book The Gift of Fear, tells us that nine times out of ten, our gut knows something's wrong before our brain does.

5) You don't have to explain to a friend why you need a safecall. You can simply say you're on a blind date and you want to check in with him/her. Set up a code phrase to be used in emergencies only--with my safecall friend, it was "Damn Yankees" --so that she would know I was in trouble and needed help.

6) Any Dom who gets angry at you for being concerned for your health and safety on a first meeting/first date is not a Dom, or at least not the Dom for you. A good Dom will give you all the time you need to become comfortable and trust Him, because He knows once you trust Him, then He can do the terrible things He wants to do to you, and keep doing them. _evil

Hope that helps a little. I'm sure others will give much better and more thorough advice; but that's my little two cents on the matter.

- bg



And a good ante at that.

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bondagedreamrPosted: 2009-07-03 23:22
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dhalialily:

barebackgirl:
Many of the more popular books on our subject (S&M 101 by Wiseman, Screw the Roses Send Me the Thorns, etc.) go over safety mechanisms in some detail. But here are a few important rules that I've survived by:

1) Never give your personal information, or any information you can be tracked by, until you've gotten to know and trust the person. In person--NOT via email.

2) Have that first meeting in a busy location--like the Starbucks at a mall--and even if he's the nicest, sweetest guy in the world, keep the date from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, and don't let him follow you out to your car/bus. Buy your own coffee, and don't let it out of your sight.

3) If you think someone might have followed you home from a date, especially if it's someone that sets off your Creep Meter, run a few errands and head over to a friend's house afterwards. You don't have to explain why you're there.

4) Listen to your instincts. Gavin de Becker, in his magnificent book The Gift of Fear, tells us that nine times out of ten, our gut knows something's wrong before our brain does.

5) You don't have to explain to a friend why you need a safecall. You can simply say you're on a blind date and you want to check in with him/her. Set up a code phrase to be used in emergencies only--with my safecall friend, it was "Damn Yankees" --so that she would know I was in trouble and needed help.

6) Any Dom who gets angry at you for being concerned for your health and safety on a first meeting/first date is not a Dom, or at least not the Dom for you. A good Dom will give you all the time you need to become comfortable and trust Him, because He knows once you trust Him, then He can do the terrible things He wants to do to you, and keep doing them. _evil

Hope that helps a little. I'm sure others will give much better and more thorough advice; but that's my little two cents on the matter.

- bg


And a good ante at that.


I totally agree. Thanks!

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daddyslilonePosted: 2009-07-04 04:43
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safety tip #1: remember that kink dates are no different than vanilla dates when it comes to meeting and/or playing for the first time, etc. don't fool yourself into believing otherwise, and don't let common sense fly out the window...

'no' still means 'no' and 'stop' still means 'stop'.

other than that, i have no advice.


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pensivePosted: 2009-07-04 09:07
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barebackgirl had a good list.

it occurs to me that you may not know this
person (whom i assume) you are considering
getting together with in a relationship.

are you pushing this more than you feel
comfortable? sounds that way to me.

a D/s relationship can begin in public
pretty easily and public venues lend a
high degree of safety to you. i might expand
on barebackgirls listed point 2) and tell you
to have quite a few vanilla dates with a new
candidate to be a partner or Dom in your life.

you don't have to go directly to 'jail'!

if i might also suggest you snap a few photos
of the intended Dom and email them to
a friend (or even a local counselor) with some background
about your intended date. i imagine the ladies here would
volunteer to be your safe call if you absolutely
can't find anyone locally.

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BabieGothikaPosted: 2009-07-04 13:09
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barebackgirl:
Many of the more popular books on our subject (S&M 101 by Wiseman, Screw the Roses Send Me the Thorns, etc.) go over safety mechanisms in some detail. But here are a few important rules that I've survived by:

1) Never give your personal information, or any information you can be tracked by, until you've gotten to know and trust the person. In person--NOT via email.

2) Have that first meeting in a busy location--like the Starbucks at a mall--and even if he's the nicest, sweetest guy in the world, keep the date from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, and don't let him follow you out to your car/bus. Buy your own coffee, and don't let it out of your sight.

3) If you think someone might have followed you home from a date, especially if it's someone that sets off your Creep Meter, run a few errands and head over to a friend's house afterwards. You don't have to explain why you're there.

4) Listen to your instincts. Gavin de Becker, in his magnificent book The Gift of Fear, tells us that nine times out of ten, our gut knows something's wrong before our brain does.

5) You don't have to explain to a friend why you need a safecall. You can simply say you're on a blind date and you want to check in with him/her. Set up a code phrase to be used in emergencies only--with my safecall friend, it was "Damn Yankees" --so that she would know I was in trouble and needed help.

6) Any Dom who gets angry at you for being concerned for your health and safety on a first meeting/first date is not a Dom, or at least not the Dom for you. A good Dom will give you all the time you need to become comfortable and trust Him, because He knows once you trust Him, then He can do the terrible things He wants to do to you, and keep doing them. _evil

Hope that helps a little. I'm sure others will give much better and more thorough advice; but that's my little two cents on the matter.

- bg


very interesting

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BaronslairPosted: 2009-07-04 15:42
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bondagedreamr:
It occurred to me that I could use advice on safety. I believe I understand safe words -- I say agreed upon word and we stop. I believe it is common to let someone know where I will be and arrange a call-in schedule -- is this 'safe calls'? What else should I know?

BTW what should a person do when there is no one to place calls to that won't get all nosy and maybe judgmental about what is going on? I don't want to stay vanilla all my life.

Please help,


Other than 911,safe words are totally worthless.Take the time to know any future partners before getting involved.If you need to have a network of support on call.....you've made some poor choices already.No one will save you if you hook up with the wrong
guy.
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MagdalenePosted: 2009-07-05 07:51
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barebackgirl:
Many of the more popular books on our subject (S&M 101 by Wiseman, Screw the Roses Send Me the Thorns, etc.) go over safety mechanisms in some detail. But here are a few important rules that I've survived by:

1) Never give your personal information, or any information you can be tracked by, until you've gotten to know and trust the person. In person--NOT via email.

2) Have that first meeting in a busy location--like the Starbucks at a mall--and even if he's the nicest, sweetest guy in the world, keep the date from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, and don't let him follow you out to your car/bus. Buy your own coffee, and don't let it out of your sight.

3) If you think someone might have followed you home from a date, especially if it's someone that sets off your Creep Meter, run a few errands and head over to a friend's house afterwards. You don't have to explain why you're there.

4) Listen to your instincts. Gavin de Becker, in his magnificent book The Gift of Fear, tells us that nine times out of ten, our gut knows something's wrong before our brain does.

5) You don't have to explain to a friend why you need a safecall. You can simply say you're on a blind date and you want to check in with him/her. Set up a code phrase to be used in emergencies only--with my safecall friend, it was "Damn Yankees" --so that she would know I was in trouble and needed help.

6) Any Dom who gets angry at you for being concerned for your health and safety on a first meeting/first date is not a Dom, or at least not the Dom for you. A good Dom will give you all the time you need to become comfortable and trust Him, because He knows once you trust Him, then He can do the terrible things He wants to do to you, and keep doing them. _evil

Hope that helps a little. I'm sure others will give much better and more thorough advice; but that's my little two cents on the matter.

- bg



This is pretty much what I did when I was looking. I made sure my safe calls had all the information about where I would be, so if they needed to intervene, they could. I asked them to contact the police if I was more than 20 minutes late making my call. The guy I was with always knew that, and I can tell you he made sure I made those calls on time!

Magdalene

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veryhotwitchPosted: 2009-07-05 09:30
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use common sense.

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EvilSeraphPosted: 2009-07-05 09:54
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veryhotwitch:
use common sense.

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veryhotwitchPosted: 2009-07-05 10:06
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EvilSeraph:

veryhotwitch:
use common sense.

witchy



Blasphemy!


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GryphonGrrlPosted: 2009-07-05 12:38
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Be an adult.

You don't need to depend on anyone else for your safety.

If you're smart, and listen to your gut, you don't need "safe calls" (useless, honestly, especially if your safe call is someone who can't come to your rescue themselves... calling the police and telling them "My friend hasn't called me yet" isn't going to get any response).

Make smart choices, use your head, and you'll be fine.

You're not supposed to check your brains at the door when you pick up your BDSM card.
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whytechocolatePosted: 2009-07-05 15:28
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Wow alot of great input here. Maybe one day I will get through all the forums. Most of them I learn a lil more I'm new at this and i am learning alot here. I am really glad I found this site some of my questions are answered without asking. Now I think I know why the guy I've been seeing isn't rushing into this with me. Just today he told me in time and I guess it is because he is trying to build my trust in him. I know I drive him crazy sometimes.I've never wanted to please someone so much and I get a lil impatient
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bondagedreamrPosted: 2009-07-05 19:44
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Thank you all for your insights and advice.


pensive:

it occurs to me that you may not know this
person (whom i assume) you are considering
getting together with in a relationship.

are you pushing this more than you feel
comfortable? sounds that way to me.


True, I don't know any of these people real time. I've cybermet them here on bcom. I fear if I put a vanilla meeting off too long or request too many before having a session, they'll just think I'm playing games or am just a wannabe. There is subtle pressure to get together (subtle as in they're very interested, why aren't we getting together).


GryphonGrrl:
Be an adult.

I feel like a child just starting out here. That's the problem, I was never particularly experienced or active in the vanilla social scene. Aside from my ex-husband, I can count the number of social interactions on my hands. I wasn't allowed to date until after I graduated from high school and my starting relationships skills are sorely lacking.


Baronslair:
Other than 911,safe words are totally worthless.Take the time to know any future partners before getting involved.If you need to have a network of support on call.....you've made some poor choices already.No one will save you if you hook up with the wrong
guy.

Point taken. I haven't made any choices yet, because I'm afraid of making the wrong ones.


whytechocolate:
Wow alot of great input here. Maybe one day I will get through all the forums. Most of them I learn a lil more I'm new at this and i am learning alot here. I am really glad I found this site some of my questions are answered without asking. Now I think I know why the guy I've been seeing isn't rushing into this with me. Just today he told me in time and I guess it is because he is trying to build my trust in him. I know I drive him crazy sometimes.I've never wanted to please someone so much and I get a lil impatient

WELCOME! and appreciate your guy. At least you know you're on the same page and he's respecting you. More importantly, you're getting to know each other. That's infinitely preferable to the floundering around I've been doing. Again, welcome and be well.

Thanks, all of you. Your input and insights are deeply appreciated.

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