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hollyAPosted: 2009-07-10 13:39
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Situation - you meet someone from the same area code! You think he sounds honest, gives you all his personal info, (that I checked for the truth test), you meet up and he seems like what he says he is by his actions and openness. Than, he slips that he's a married person, but his wife is okay with him perusing his desires, (I should be okay with it too), and can't understand why I am angry and told him to go to hell.

I'm a relatively smart woman. I've been around the dating scene for years. I've never had my radar fail me for a fake-freak liar, like I did in this quick, limited "gathering".

Question - Has anyone ever been in a similar situation, and how did you react? I feel shaken and certainly foolishly naive. How long did it take to shrug off the idiot sign on the forehead, and HOW did my radar fail??
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sexualfunPosted: 2009-07-10 16:28
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She needs counseling...? You moron... So, then, who ever you are (A.H.), not telling the truth is OK to you...?

Maybe you are one of the scammers on this site... Shut up...!

To the Poster... you have every right to be angry... no one likes to be lied to... Even (A.H.) if they were man/woman enough to admit it.

And your not foolish or naive... it shows that your have character... you have enough emotional strength to TRUST... Something A.H. probably knows nothing about... You took your time to meet him... nothing is more valuable than that. He wasted what was NOT his to waste.

I know how you feel... I had something similar happen to me, as well.. The people who do it are shallow souls at best...

Don't change who you are... if you do, then you gave that ass hole the power to change... don't give that to him...

And don't listen to A.H.... he/she/it is probably a therapist, looking for patients, who became a therapist so that he/she/it could try to figure out their problems...

And A.H.... if you should decide to respond, I know it will be difficult for you, but try, try hard, to make your response... at least, half way intelligent... half way positive... You probably won't... you probably lie to people as well.

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aslandiaPosted: 2009-07-10 16:47
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My husband, with my blessing, is free to play with whoever he wishes. Or is that whomever? I can never get that right! tehehe Anyway, I have told him if he's out and a girl doesn't believe him to dial me and I'll be happy to speak with her.

This is just how we do it.
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_GhostPosted: 2009-07-10 17:51
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It happens. Ask to meet the spouse if they're so okay with it. Hear from them, in person, that it's okay. It won't be most of the time. Part because most of these people are lying. Part because, just because someone is in that kind of arrangement, the last thing the spouse wants to see is their "competition." In a HEALTHY relationship of this type, though, the spouse should be fine with double checking.

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aslandia:

Case and point!
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_GhostPosted: 2009-07-10 17:56
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On second thought...

*erase*
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"...by the by, this moment is so great, I'd cheat on that other moment from before, marry this one and raise a family of tiny, little moments."

Edited by - _Ghost on 2009-07-10 17:56:57

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VenimousPosted: 2009-07-10 17:59
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I think they should have brought this up before the face-to-face, especially if you had asked anything related or indicated that you were looking for a relationship of sorts.

I have had this happen to me before even though I am pretty straightforward about looking for an eventual long term relationship. If they were open from the beginning, in my case, I might have been open to playing, but withholding it would have just pissed me off like it did you.

I have even had this happen to me in vanilla situations. Had a guy go out with me three times (no funny business) and I couldn't understand why he was being such a perfect gentleman until he admitted that he was married.

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CherryBabyPosted: 2009-07-10 18:16
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I agree, it should have been brought up before the meeting. He didn't, so yeah, I can see why you're angry. But, maybe he's not a scum bucket either, and just didn't say anything until meeting because it's not like poly is all that accepted in this society.

If it were me, I'd ask to meet the wife. That's how I'd know if it was okay or if he were cheating. If they're not telling the truth about the wife being okay with it, the last thing they'd do is let you meet her.

Edited by - CherryBaby on 2009-07-10 18:21:35

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leperPosted: 2009-07-10 19:39
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Once, I inadvertedly turned out to have been dating a major drug dealer-enforcer dude that used to sleep with a huge automatic next to him in the bed just in case the feds came.

There really was no excuse for me missing it, but in my defense, he was a huge environmental cause nut. My mind just couldn't make the connection between baby seal hugger and crazy mo-fo drug business. I also figured his muscly abode and demeanor was a way of compensating for being a hippie, not the other way around.

As to the OP, open relationships are much more common on this site/lifestyle than otherwise. It's not really something to feel betrayed about, unless he deliberately failed to mention it on his profile etc.


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neo10Posted: 2009-07-10 21:09
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Why wait for him to volunteer the information? I would ask. In fact I did. About 2 questions into any conversation I was starting up.

If you don't ask they are in their right to assume you either don't care one way or the other, or that you don't want to know.
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Alpha_tronPosted: 2009-07-11 02:19
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Your Human your allowed to make a mistakes.
Perhaps your desire to find another has blinded your radar.
Emotional wishfulness does create rose colored eyes.

When we meet someone new we fill in the blanks with a optimistic view points that might not be based in reality.

Once we get to know them we replace those blank spot with what we really know.

Sometime what we thought they are are rarely who they are.

Just an opinion.

Just move on and go next.

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vegassongbirdPosted: 2009-07-11 02:44
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Oh, give yourself a fucking break. If someone wants to omit or deceive you in the limited mediums of email and phone, it's very easy. 'Doesn't make you a chump, it just comes with the territory. The thinking is probably akin to people selling any old crap: If they can just get in front of you.....

And give that poor bastard a break too (or half a break, maybe). He's probably just some hapless, lonely, frustrated saddo stuck in a dead end relationship. Express some empathy before heading for the exit.

But yeah, back in the day when I was living on the road and all BDSM was transitory and in a hotel room, at least a dozen of them confessed to being, as one put it, "slightly married". Since I was always leaving town, I'd make a snap decision on the spot as to whether or not getting spanked by me was going to do their head in. If so, I'd just have a hot little talk with them, kiss them hard and send them on their way. If they were down for a ships in the night thing (rarer than you'd think), I'd do my best to give 'em a night to remember.

But in internet-land, unless a woman explicitly says they'd be open to sitting on the face of a married man, said married man should probably just assume that the answer is no.

I mean, it don't take no rocket scientist to figure that out.
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ArabSlaveGirlPosted: 2009-07-11 03:23
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sexualfun:

She needs counseling...? You moron... So, then, who ever you are (A.H.), not telling the truth is OK to you...?

Maybe you are one of the scammers on this site... Shut up...!


And don't listen to A.H.... he/she/it is probably a therapist, looking for patients, who became a therapist so that he/she/it could try to figure out their problems...

And A.H.... if you should decide to respond, I know it will be difficult for you, but try, try hard, to make your response... at least, half way intelligent... half way positive... You probably won't... you probably lie to people as well.


Ummmm isnt A.H just a part of the OP's sig line????

To the OP...He should have at least explained to you that you would be his bit on the side so that you would have the choice on whether thats what you wanted.

I would be pissed off aswell.

How long were you talking for before deciding to meet? If it was a short time then naturally your radar probably would have failed.

I spent a few months talking with my Owner...asking the same questions in different ways...trying to work out if he was bullshitting me or not.
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hollyAPosted: 2009-07-11 07:04
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Oh sexualfun - the AH is my sig line. I'm sorry for that confusion, and that returned email. Let's start over, I didn't understand what you wrote in your email.


Thank you all for your thoughts on this matter.

Holly
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wanderingherePosted: 2009-07-11 09:56
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neo10:
Why wait for him to volunteer the information? I would ask. In fact I did. About 2 questions into any conversation I was starting up.


Alas, that doesnt allways do the trick.
Some guys happen to be liars.

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NASHVILLEDOMPosted: 2009-07-11 10:06
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What is worse then that and recently happened to me is when you seem compatable and getting your hopes up then they hit you with they are married and the husband don't know.

If he knew and/or was cockold I would have started something with her.

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neo10Posted: 2009-07-11 13:02
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wanderinghere:

neo10:
Why wait for him to volunteer the information? I would ask. In fact I did. About 2 questions into any conversation I was starting up.


Alas, that doesnt allways do the trick.
Some guys happen to be liars.


Sure, some people tend to be liars, there's nothing you can do to prepare for that except chat for a very long time, or at least until they trip themselves up with their lies, and they do. Besides outright lying is often easier to detect than them lying by omission.

So, if you are worried about not being able to detect a lie about whether he is married, then it seems pointless to ask him any questions at all about anything over the internet or the phone.

This guy at least volunteered the info when you met, so it sounds like he would have told you before, had you asked. I've heard plenty of stories about both men & women being strung along for months with excuses to mask the fact that the liers are married.

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