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| questioning_1 | Posted: 2010-02-08 13:51 | |
| Forum Initiate - unknown - 5 Posts | I post this knowing some people are going to bitchslap me for being a whiny aup and not knowing what I want, but I'm ok with that. Part of me thinks that's what I need. Here's the situation. My last post was that my husband/dom wasn't as into BDSM as I was, and I was looking for ways to change that. The responses I got helped immensely and all was better. In the last couple of weeks, my husband has met a man online who had seen my picture and asked if my husband ever shared me. He told the person that we had talked about it, but hadn't come to a clear conclusion. He and I have given it a lot of thought, and talked about it, and it seems like something we'd be interested in doing. I have chatted with the other dom online, and he's been nothing but polite, respectful and really fun to talk to, someone I'd be friends with if nothing else. So we agreed to meet for lunch, just to talk, get to know everyone, no expectations. So, it's all cool, right? No. Ever since we made plans, my eating disorder(too much drama, won't go into it) has gone haywire. It seems to be getting worse every day. Here's the thing. When I was(younger) I was in an abusive relationship where I was treated like an object, not useful for anything but other people's needs, no free will, no voice of my own. When my husband and I talked more about this yesterday, he mentioned that I had talked about what I would be expected to do for the other people, but not about what I needed/wanted from this meeting. Then he said, "You know, you're not going to be a party favor, this is for you too." This triggered feelings from the past, and I have been thinking ever since that maybe I am not ready for this after all my talk to the contrary. Everyone involved is very much wanting me to be comfortable and ok with this, and I thought I was. Is my eating disorder out of control because I am not ready, or am I just emotional because this is something I've never done before(consentually). Any thoughts would be helpful. | |
| Alpha_tron | Posted: 2010-02-08 14:38 | |
Forum Apprentice United States 444 Posts | It seems you still have unresolved issues from your past that is causing you problems in the present. Perhaps you are not ready. Maybe your eating disorder is triggered by stress from this proposed meeting or trigger from what your husband said. The safer thing to do is to back off and take it easy. Having more stress and emotional unrest is not healthy for you. Backing down might reduce your stress and allow you to get a handle on your eating disorder. Rushing in might cause you more harm than good. The attempt to give advice is just an attempt to help. Use it or ignore it, modify it or not, Use your common sense at all time. This is your relationship not mine. Your know your dynamics of your relationship better than anyone on this forum. This is not an ego thing nor is this some sort of power trip for me. Best of luck in finding what you need and want. | |
| DiAnnie | Posted: 2010-02-08 14:41 | |
Forum Slut United States 1,956 Posts | Interesting...maybe, and this is my opinion, your eating disorder is going haywire due to stress about a situation from your past that is coming to the surface with the talk of another person coming into your relationship. Deep seeded issues have a tendency to rear it's ugly face when you least expect it. You are aware that your eating disorder has resurfaced since a reality has opened up to you. Rethink your decision, after all you are the one who has control over YOU! DiAnnie ------------------------------------------------- | |
| Mirabai | Posted: 2010-02-08 15:20 | |
Dr. Smartypants United States 6,237 Posts | I don't understand. What's a whiny acceptable use policy? -- | |
| questioning_1 | Posted: 2010-02-08 15:23 | |
| Forum Initiate - unknown - 5 Posts | Mirabai: I don't understand. What's a whiny acceptable use policy? I'm not sure I can explain it without violating the aup, oddly enough. The aup states that any person under 18 cannot be talked about on this site, so when someone wants to post about a person that fits that label, sometimes they call that person an aup. | |
| Baronslair | Posted: 2010-02-08 15:25 | |
Forum Maniac United States 6,679 Posts | This is like watching "The Real Housewives From Orange County" on The Bravo Channel. You need to solve past vanilla issues and get a firmer more realistic look at life as it actually is,not as you fantasize it and hope it just eventually all works out.Get rid of the people whom are destructive forces in your life and make a viable plan that you will stick with. The Baron | |
| questioning_1 | Posted: 2010-02-08 15:34 | |
| Forum Initiate - unknown - 5 Posts | Baronslair: This is like watching "The Real Housewives From Orange County" on The Bravo Channel. You need to solve past vanilla issues and get a firmer more realistic look at life as it actually is,not as you fantasize it and hope it just eventually all works out.Get rid of the people whom are destructive forces in your life and make a viable plan that you will stick with. The Baron I totally agree, and thank you for your opinion. I really did think I had worked through all these issues, you know, therapy and "i love me" self help books. I seriously am a grown up here, and confused as to why I can't make a decision like one. I am wondering if what I am dealing with is the same kind of thing you'd be feeling if you planned on skydiving for the first time - excitement, trepidation, maybe you were afraid of heights, all that crap. I don't have low self esteem or some fear of being happy. Performance anxiety maybe? | |
| Dr_M_E_Pain | Posted: 2010-02-08 18:00 | |
Sadistic. United States 2,808 Posts | questioning_1: Baronslair: This is like watching "The Real Housewives From Orange County" on The Bravo Channel. You need to solve past vanilla issues and get a firmer more realistic look at life as it actually is,not as you fantasize it and hope it just eventually all works out.Get rid of the people whom are destructive forces in your life and make a viable plan that you will stick with. The Baron I totally agree, and thank you for your opinion. I really did think I had worked through all these issues, you know, therapy and "i love me" self help books. I seriously am a grown up here, and confused as to why I can't make a decision like one. I am wondering if what I am dealing with is the same kind of thing you'd be feeling if you planned on skydiving for the first time - excitement, trepidation, maybe you were afraid of heights, all that crap. I don't have low self esteem or some fear of being happy. Performance anxiety maybe? It's a mistake to think that deep seated 'issues' from early in life are ever completely dealt with. You can learn about them, you can recognize them when they appear - which is what you are doing now, you can work through them when they arise, but you can never totally rid yourself of them. They are a part of who you are. If you want to pursue this sharing desire I think you would be wise to get a good therapist to work with before you do anything in the real world and then let that person help you figure when (if ever) would be a good time to explore this. You have an opportunity here to work on these issues from a new angle, if that's what you want to do. Nothing says you have to though. About fucking time I changed this. | |
| Mr_Hand | Posted: 2010-02-08 18:09 | |
Forum Maniac 8,537 Posts | questioning_1: I post this knowing some people are going to bitchslap me for being a whiny aup and not knowing what I want, but I'm ok with that. Part of me thinks that's what I need. Here's the situation. My last post was that my husband/dom wasn't as into BDSM as I was, and I was looking for ways to change that. The responses I got helped immensely and all was better. In the last couple of weeks, my husband has met a man online who had seen my picture and asked if my husband ever shared me. He told the person that we had talked about it, but hadn't come to a clear conclusion. He and I have given it a lot of thought, and talked about it, and it seems like something we'd be interested in doing. I have chatted with the other dom online, and he's been nothing but polite, respectful and really fun to talk to, someone I'd be friends with if nothing else. So we agreed to meet for lunch, just to talk, get to know everyone, no expectations. So, it's all cool, right? No. Ever since we made plans, my eating disorder(too much drama, won't go into it) has gone haywire. It seems to be getting worse every day. Here's the thing. When I was(younger) I was in an abusive relationship where I was treated like an object, not useful for anything but other people's needs, no free will, no voice of my own. When my husband and I talked more about this yesterday, he mentioned that I had talked about what I would be expected to do for the other people, but not about what I needed/wanted from this meeting. Then he said, "You know, you're not going to be a party favor, this is for you too." This triggered feelings from the past, and I have been thinking ever since that maybe I am not ready for this after all my talk to the contrary. Everyone involved is very much wanting me to be comfortable and ok with this, and I thought I was. Is my eating disorder out of control because I am not ready, or am I just emotional because this is something I've never done before(consentually). Any thoughts would be helpful. You are nervous - it's not a trivial development in your marriage. It's huge. Step way back, don't even think about it for a while. When dealing with the potential impact of stuff like this - it isn't "also" about you - it's ALL about you. Just relax. Always keep to a sober, emotional center in every step you take. Eventually, things will find their correct place. "I want your psycho, your vertigo schtick - want you in my rear window, baby you're sick I want your love, love, love love - I want your love." - Lady Gaga | |
| wanderingcelt | Posted: 2010-02-09 01:41 | |
| Forum Apprentice United States 371 Posts | Among the many problems with giving advise is that all too often, the only person who needs it is me. So please forgive me if some of this misses the mark. It sounds like your intuition is that you've been recreating that old abusive time as your expectation for what being with this Dom fellow would be like. And if you are careful enough in avoiding revealing your desires, you might be able to bring that about. Part of the solution would be to focus on learning what your needs and desires are. Not what you feel they ought to be, or what you want them to be, but what it seems like you really need and want. Or perhaps I'm imagining that because I myself find it difficult to work through, give myself permission to, dare to, see what I want. As others have said, sometimes things that seem settled come back up, when our life leads us to re-experience them anew. Or give us a new angle from which to look at them. You haven't said what the relationship is between your eating disorder and your past abusive relationship. You don't have to, of course, but it does seem like that would be important to look at. If therapy played a part in resolving your problem before, it probably should again. I have an uneducated hope that because you've already learned a lot about yourself through your past work, you'll have less work to do this time around. As others have said, focus on taking care of yourself and getting the care you need from others. Calling yourself whiny is an excuse for not taking care of yourself. You have real and legitimate needs and you must address them to be health. | |
| pensive | Posted: 2010-02-09 04:48 | |
Forum Maniac United States 5,857 Posts | i'd agree with the post responses that say you have unresolved emotional issues inside which haven't really been met on a level playing field with your adult persona. why not back off the intended play dates, i do have a question; Edited by - pensive on 2010-02-09 06:08:03 | |
| Baronslair | Posted: 2010-02-09 11:15 | |
Forum Maniac United States 6,679 Posts | questioning_1: Baronslair: This is like watching "The Real Housewives From Orange County" on The Bravo Channel. You need to solve past vanilla issues and get a firmer more realistic look at life as it actually is,not as you fantasize it and hope it just eventually all works out.Get rid of the people whom are destructive forces in your life and make a viable plan that you will stick with. The Baron I totally agree, and thank you for your opinion. I really did think I had worked through all these issues, you know, therapy and "i love me" self help books. I seriously am a grown up here, and confused as to why I can't make a decision like one. I am wondering if what I am dealing with is the same kind of thing you'd be feeling if you planned on skydiving for the first time - excitement, trepidation, maybe you were afraid of heights, all that crap. I don't have low self esteem or some fear of being happy. Performance anxiety maybe? If you need someone to bounce thoughts off of away from the forums,I'm happy to listen and can offer some thoughts back from my many years involved in all of this cool stuff!. The Baron Edited by - Baronslair on 2010-02-09 11:17:29 | |
| Patronus_mouse | Posted: 2010-02-09 17:13 | |
Forum Maniac United States 3,520 Posts | questioning_1: Is my eating disorder out of control because I am not ready, or am I just emotional because this is something I've never done before(consentually). Any thoughts would be helpful. Your eating disorder is out of control because this situation is very disturbing to you. If you can, I suggest you document/journal everything you eat, the time you ate it, and your feelings while you ate. If you are starving yourself because your world feels out of control and this is your only way to attain control over something, you also need to pay strict attention to what is going on. Are you in counseling for eating disorder-related issues? If you are not, you probably should start thinking about it. As a former sufferer of said disorders, I had to look into this for many many years and realize the things that were causing me to go into strange eating patterns and behaviors. You may also want to postpone this threesome thing until you get a better hold on why it's upsetting you. Good luck. That's the toughest addiction to kick, IMHO. | |
| Mirabai | Posted: 2010-02-10 10:38 | |
Dr. Smartypants United States 6,237 Posts | questioning_1: Mirabai: I don't understand. What's a whiny acceptable use policy? I'm not sure I can explain it without violating the aup, oddly enough. The aup states that any person under 18 cannot be talked about on this site, so when someone wants to post about a person that fits that label, sometimes they call that person an aup. You can use the word kid or child, etc. You cannot talk about children on this site but you can use the word. So in your sentence, "bitchslap me for being a whiny aup" you can write "bitchslap me for being a whiny kid" and that's perfectly acceptable. You cannot discuss underage life, liberty, or the pursuits of happiness. You can use the words. Hope that helps. | |
| Maryland | Posted: 2010-02-10 11:08 | |
| Forum Initiate - unknown - 16 Posts | It seems clear to me based on what you said about your eating disorder. You are not ready and you should know that. This experience should be fun and pleasant for all of you, but your are feeling physically ill, so that says volumns, don't you think?? I had a bad experience early on when I was looking for a Master and it was such a bad experience I am still to this day frightened about trusting anyone again. I know it's wrong to fear everyone, but it's a fear that is deep seeded and only I will know when I will be ready for another BDSM relationship. Listen to your own self, you know yourself better than anyone else. | |
| Bananacake | Posted: 2010-02-10 12:15 | |
| Forum Newbie United States 61 Posts | Eating disorders are typically about control, so now that you're facing a situation where you won't have control, you're seizing it elsewhere. I think it's pretty clear that you don't really want this--or that you can't handle it at this time. So get some professional help, resolve those past issues, and then reevaluate. We don't always want what we think we want. There are times when the fantasy is far more powerful than the reality. It's not worth destroying yourself over this--your health is too important. Good luck. Stand before your god, bow before your king, kneel before your Man. --Terry Pratchett | |
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