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IamZPosted: 2010-03-12 05:40
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Again I'm sure this has been discussed in the past.
But how about some current views on this one.

In my view, the full body leather get up with hood is actually the quintessential top from the bottom.

I say this because it provides a feeling of full anonymity to the sub.
Real or imagined.

Your thoughts?
Z

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DarkeonePosted: 2010-03-12 06:21
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Probably very real for the sub.

I like hoods because it completes a subs' depersonalization and further defines them as an object for my enjoyment.

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tied2itPosted: 2010-03-12 06:23
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I like the costumes associated with d/s play but it is only gift wrapping . Just as heels on a women can portray a top or bottom feel/ look so could any other accessory .

The hood on a sub can produce a feeling of being used as there most individual and personal qualities are covered up leaving a body to play with .

Depending on the style of hood it can produce dependence on the top for basic needs for example sight ,speech ect.. with out the use of some of your senses you can become dependant, weak, forced to look inside ones self ect...

I do understand your thought though a slave/ bottom being covered can be seen as allowing him/her a bit of modesty . For some being naked while there partner is covered shows a definite position giving the power to the one who is covered as it is not them who is on display .

Flipping that coin when my wife struts during play with just heels on there is no question of who is in charge in many ways i see her ability to command with no covering as very self confident and self assure . Her body is on display and she knows it will be satisfied . She has no guilt or fear of showing herself , she also has no need to make her body attractive with shiny things as i would crawl to her if she wore leather or burlap .

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TheJohnPosted: 2010-03-12 08:07
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A hood likely makes the sub to "give in" when speak is muffled, as well as hearing and sight. Besides it's all around, feels inescapable. So maybe anonymous, but topping from bottom?_wink

From an esthetic point, I like to see the face of the playpartner.._wink

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arizona_boundPosted: 2010-03-12 12:25
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IamZ:
Again I'm sure this has been discussed in the past.
But how about some current views on this one.

In my view, the full body leather get up with hood is actually the quintessential top from the bottom.

I say this because it provides a feeling of full anonymity to the sub.
Real or imagined.

Your thoughts?
Z


Is this something you've ever done with anyone?
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IamZPosted: 2010-03-13 04:27
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Yes - that's why I'm discussing it.

When I've donned the hood (or reasonable facsimile) I actually felt very powerful in my "real or imagined" anonymity.
I suspect it's more due to my personality than anything else.

The old joke comes to mind ...
If you were caught naked on a busy street with nothing more than a hankie what would you cover?
Most people said - My face.

I'm not particularly turned on by a hood on a playmate either.
I want to observe the beauty of his facial expressions as I'm hurting (or pleasing) him.

Best,
Z

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susan_222Posted: 2010-03-13 12:55
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Interesting that the topic is about a hood, I was recently hooded for the first time, brought into a room and displayed. An odd feeling, so sureal. I felt like nothing more than a vase. I felt so helpless, and really so dependant upon my Dominant Couple.
Being paraded around the room, I realized how much trust i had in Emily and Thomas.
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Nikki_KantakaPosted: 2010-03-13 15:11
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I feel completely vulnerable not powerful when hooded.
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C-RayPosted: 2010-03-14 08:02
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From the Dom's eye view, I want to see her face, most of the time. I like to do mind fucks, so seeing the expressions helps me hone in and do just the right thing at just the right time, to get the result I want.

I can only guess at it from the sub's perspective. I could understand it feeling claustrophobic to some and giving a feeling of helplessness.

I can see how others might draw strength from anonymity.

So, yeah, personality would have a great influence, I'd think.

That's with the hood alone.

I'm thinking that being covered or naked with the hood on would produce very different feelings?

Dressed in leather from head to toe, with the hood on, I'd think would be more likely to produce the powerful feeling.

Being naked and hooded would be more apt to make the sub feel very vulnerable.
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NASHVILLEDOMPosted: 2010-03-14 09:21
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IamZ:
Yes - that's why I'm discussing it.

When I've donned the hood (or reasonable facsimile) I actually felt very powerful in my "real or imagined" anonymity.
I suspect it's more due to my personality than anything else.

The old joke comes to mind ...
If you were caught naked on a busy street with nothing more than a hankie what would you cover?
Most people said - My face.

I'm not particularly turned on by a hood on a playmate either.
I want to observe the beauty of his facial expressions as I'm hurting (or pleasing) him.

Best,
Z


Perhaps you are confusing the feeling with something else, protection is one possibility.

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Krewel_TPosted: 2010-03-14 09:47
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The hood can create anonymity or objectification. It has to be put into the context of the moment. It can be a symbol of submission or one of dominance. It is circumstance and personality driven.
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paris_subPosted: 2010-03-14 10:34
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IamZ:
In my view, the full body leather get up with hood is actually the quintessential top from the bottom.

I say this because it provides a feeling of full anonymity to the sub.
Real or imagined.


Hmm, i'm not sure why you would say wearing a hood = topping from the bottom. In my experience, any time i have ever worn a hood, it was because that's how the top wanted me. So, right there, from the beginning, i am simply following orders.

i view the hood as making the bottom more of an object, depersonalized, something to be used, not human. It can even be a humiliating experience for many. For me, it's quite the opposite of topping from the bottom as i am not able to use my face, looks, personality, in any way, shape or form. i exist merely to please and be used. i enjoy having that ability stripped from me and being able to get down to business, as it were. Being anonymous and able to get away with things because of that is not how it works for me, though your mileage may vary.

Now some may enjoy the freedom that comes with a full leather constraint, including hood, much as many in full rope bondage do. For instance, some bottoms enjoy being fully restrained and being forced to perform certain acts that they feel too inhibited to do. Feeling it was out of their control is one way some bottoms can get beyond their self-consciousness and enjoy very taboo activities. But, is that really topping from the bottom? i figure anything that happens only happens because the top is allowing it. So really, if there is manipulation going on...isn't it more because the top is authorizing it?

i'm curious then how the addition of a hood would empower a sub to top from the bottom?
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Edited by - paris_sub on 2010-03-14 10:36:44

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DcoupleSPosted: 2010-03-14 19:57
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Just a temporary play additive - which would be removed for the finals as you want to see your partner ...
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tied2itPosted: 2010-03-14 20:02
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Now some may enjoy the freedom that comes with a full leather constraint, including hood, much as many in full rope bondage do. For instance, some bottoms enjoy being fully restrained and being forced to perform certain acts that they feel too inhibited to do. Feeling it was out of their control is one way some bottoms can get beyond their self-consciousness and enjoy very taboo activities. But, is that really topping from the bottom? i figure anything that happens only happens because the top is allowing it. So really, if there is manipulation going on...isn't it more because the top is authorizing it?


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Leather hood - black pillow case tucked under some rope or a collar I like it but it is how i was prepared not my request.

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Nikki_KantakaPosted: 2010-03-15 02:34
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C-Ray:
I'm thinking that being covered or naked with the hood on would produce very different feelings?

Dressed in leather from head to toe, with the hood on, I'd think would be more likely to produce the powerful feeling.

Being naked and hooded would be more apt to make the sub feel very vulnerable.


I think the idea that clothing the submissive in attire more traditionally associated with a dominant person is more likely to result in them experiencing feelings of power might just be false.

What I suspect might be more important is the state of mind of the submissive at the point at which the hood is put on, and what happens, or even what doesn't happen, once it is on.

Speaking personally, what I am wearing has very little to do with what I feel when hooded. I could quite easily put forward a case that being dressed head to toe in latex or leather while hooded actually increases my sense of vulnerability but I'm not going to do so because I don't think it's any more true, for me anyway, than the idea that being nude while hooded results in a greater sense of vulnerability.

It's primarily the removal of, or reduction in the quality of, my senses which makes me feel vulnerable when hooded so being clothed doesn't offer any protection. I can't see him coming. I can't see what he just picked up. My hearing is muffled so I can't quite hear what's going on or where he is. In addition, I might not be able to breathe as easily as is usual and I may feel more vulnerable to him preventing me from breathing at all, particularly if the hood in question is designed for that purpose. There's a general increased feeling of helplessness and sometimes fear.

Being clothed when hooded limits what he can do to me but then there are so many different things that can be done. :-)

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IamZPosted: 2010-03-15 05:19
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Well, like I said - it may be due to how different personalities react to the same experience(s).

I appreciate all of your responses - and look forward to many more.

Best,
Z

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