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 All Forums Welcome Hanging Out Why the sudden increase in those who hate Capitals |  Login to Reply New Topic |  Printer Friendly |
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| DJMSCUD | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:25 | |
Forum Maniac United States 2,488 Posts | This is a very interesting thread and one that I have discovered from Way back when(Started with which led to a few ignores). And I've noticed it escalate lately through reading profiles of many subs,mainly females though.. This thread also was similarly touchedbut in a different light/perspective By some Master here in reference to two Doms who had/have thier names uncapitalized.(U can respond oh Other one DW)..SURE would like that thread reposted--Er Sir(T) I notice that quite a few subs here,believe so far as I've seen only all women,who in thier profiles describing the kind of Ideal Man they want for Permament(As I remember atleast 80%) and for casual play(Just some) they put down that They do not want or aren't interested in Men who use the Word Master or Sir in their name or use Me,My,Myself,I etc.. or Use Capitals in thier name.... I first got grilled way back because I capitalized all the words pertaining to Me... I ask Myself and to most of the subs out here that believe like those women subs I've mentioned I want the Pros and Cons... I have two accounts here,one with scudfa basically now to be used as nonmember and Master Scud who soon will become Full Member... Go ahead all subs shoot and all Masters and Mistresses.. I basically have no problem or wouldn't care less,oh but I do as Its starting to be big trend.... Master Scud | |
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| Heff | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:37 | |
Tiny Angry God 9,288 Posts | Fashion. and the newPolitik thats sweeping scene as a whole... "I know what I am, advertising it with the way I look/dress/talk/walk write my name = crude" Is it important? fuck, I capitalise names all the damned time, usually, cos they are names. I make sure I get lowercase for names when Im flaming, especially for Tops who believe in that whole A/all system. Tools, Scud, like anything else, evrything is a tool, a weapon, a word, a loook, a glance... Its all perception biased. Heff. [Adited to capitalise 'Scud'] SFA CEO - Black Ops Dvision and Mentor to Ditey Edited by - Heff on 07/07/2002 18:39:05 | |
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| gone3 | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:42 | |
| Forum Maniac United States 2,245 Posts | I don't mind it when someone capitalizes their name - its proper grammar. But unless your first language is one where pronouns ARE capitalized, it just violates the English language a bit further, and some people don't really have that much leeway to begin with. As for titles? Take all you want - just don't expect people to use them. Sincerely, the Grand High Poobahtrix of Two Acres, Rowan | |
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| pwincess | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:43 | |
Forum Maniac United States 13,067 Posts | I am very stylish ~~ pwincess ~~ North American SFA Operative | |
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| niara_the_imp_S | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:45 | |
Forever Slut 2,618 Posts | the Master and Sir names... in some places its as bad as ive seen MasterDomSir as a name and Siror Master followed by numbers as a name. to me and to other subs i know its an ego boost to be called Sor or Master bye everyone. to me and some others we call them by their numbers or not at all. they are not my Sir nor Master nor am i going to "have" to call someone that since it is their name. and i guess we would see by someones profile and other means if someone is a Dom or Master.. normally those who are don't have to hit us over the heads with names that include it. nothing against those who have it, just mine and others i know's (topic in room on several occasions) simple humble opinions. though if someone has a name like SirSuperstar, i would address him as Superstar and thats fine and dandy since im given an option of call him him by his other part of the name. think the grip was more that people who just have Master007 and Sir007 and MasterDomSir kinda thing. niara[S] Though she bends him, she obeys him | |
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| cassandria | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:45 | |
| Forum Slut Canada 1,373 Posts | *wryly* for those of us who've spent a fair bit of time in bdsm channels on mirc, those caps have come to represent something I believe. For me..every time I see "Cassie" I hafta cringe in a way, just because of the associations. I feel 'big' when i see it...like..that's just WRONG...whereas when someone uses 'cassie' I breathe a lil more naturally. Personally? I don't have any issue with calling someone "Sir" or any kind of respect, even if I don't know them. If you prove to be unworthy of it, I'll drop it fast enough. But I do tend to do it initially, probably more out of habit than anything. I have to chuckle at the capitalizing of "Me" etc, just because I think it looks rather egotystical. But for those who've been used to that as a natural way of speech in chatrooms, I think that's harder to break away from. I'm finially learning to cap my "I"'s again. <img src=/forums/icons/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> Good punctuation is quite cool. I rawk. (and if I could talk like an SFA member, I'd put cool pheer and eleet words here too. grin) my .05. (two isn't enough. I'm longwinded..smirk)
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| sephie | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:46 | |
MONG United Kingdom 6,629 Posts | fuck it its simple think its dumb- and a waste of time, enough said my respect goes to CoB but i dotn have a cyber relationship so i dont have to resort to silly online customs to offer respect, i can do that by physical and emotional means much more easily its an online thing...and yes...it is very deeply sad- you wanted my opinion- even though you profess to not caring - so now you have it ::Hate, hate your enemies Porno Pokemon of Child_of_Babylon | |
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| KatieJ | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:48 | |
Wandfucker  United States 8,465 Posts | I don't call anyone Master or Sir (or Mistress or Ma'am) unless that honorific has been earned. In my experience, those who *demand* those titles are least likely to deserve them; still, I try to withhold judgement until I see the person in action. I don't care how someone refers to him/herself, that choice belongs to the person in question. It's not that I hate capitals, or those honorifics .. merely that I reserve the right to use them as a measure of my respect for the person. Katie | |
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| Akbeauty_IMD | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:59 | |
Forum Maniac United States 6,894 Posts | I don't hate caps. In fact I use them a lot. Of course sometimes I get in a hurry and don't do them but for the most part I do. Live well, live good. And if ya needs glasses, get em. aka: dommesubbie Edited by - Akbeauty on 07/07/2002 18:59:48 | |
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| DJMSCUD | Posted: 2002-07-07 18:59 | |
Forum Maniac United States 2,488 Posts | Basically Me a Master and Dj(Dj name) I couldn't agree with yall more but there is something also missing here that hasn't been mentioned... When the person adamently disapproves of a Master or Mistress who use those Titles or use Capital Letters M S-Dj Master Scud | |
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| _phoenix_ | Posted: 2002-07-07 19:05 | |
Forum Regular - unknown - 599 Posts | I think Seraphine's response and many of the others suggest reasons for the negative reactions you've had. | |
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| TypeA_Sub | Posted: 2002-07-07 19:11 | |
Forum Maniac Moderator  Canada 17,130 Posts | I have no objection to capitalizing anything which should be.. as is dictated by proper grammar. I completely despise being told to write my name without a capital. It's simply poor grammar. My grammar is not flawless, however, I do aspire to write well and communicate effectively. I agree with Seph. TypeA
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| poppetses | Posted: 2002-07-07 19:24 | |
Forum Maniac United States 2,856 Posts | The Master / Sir names don't really bother me. Whether or not I use them depends on the situation. I call Goreans Master. I call Dominants Sir, and I wish more of them would let me use it, or at least some sort of title, because I don't feel comfortable using proper names - anyone's name (I even avoid calling my friends by name unless I'm making a erference to them). If they prove, blatantly, to be an idiot, I'll cease to use it; or (and I do this a lot when composing email), I'll put it in quotes. As far as the capitalized pronouns...with me, it's strictly a religious issue. Very, very rarely will I capitalize a pronoun, and then, it's only in chat actions, usually in reference to a Mistress/Domme to make it clear that I'm denoting her and not myself (since the third-person gets confusing at times). God gets a Pronoun - everyone else gets a pronoun. I don't refer to others that way because it feels as if I'm being disrespectful to my diety of choice, and while I realize that not everyone else has the same views, to me, it comes across as if they're trying to elevate themself to a similar status by using Personal Pronouns (or even Second Person Pronouns to refer to other Dominants). It isn't something that I'm comfortable with. I will capitalize words like Owner and Dominant, and sometimes Any/Others (the latter's another set I tend to reserve for certain chat venues, though), simply because I've gotten used to it. For some reason, that doesn't seem as pretentious/potentially blasphemous to me. Probably because I can relate those to 'titles' and not personal references. kiska | |
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| GreyCoyote | Posted: 2002-07-07 20:14 | |
| Forum Apprentice United States 115 Posts | <font size=4> <font color=teal> Personally, Strength comes from within. In r/l I find that people who live for titles and caps and other non sense are basically weak and trying to prove something. It makes no difference to me if someone refers to me as GreyCoyote, or greycoyote, or fucktard or even Sir Silly Goose *winks at that special person* Names and titles and caps do not define me as a person. Its what's in my heart and soul that does. Pardon me while I go play with my bows and swords...... </font id=teal> </font id=size4>
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| Alcemeg | Posted: 2002-07-07 23:59 | |
Forum Maniac United Kingdom 4,561 Posts | I don't think there is "a sudden increase" in the dislike of people using capital letters for pronouns. What I do think is that a few spoke up about it and that opened the doors for others to admit their dislike. As far as I'm concerned, if someone chooses to not capitalise their name then - however ungrammatical that is - that's a very personal choice and I will respect that. But if S/someone C/chooses T/to C/capitalise W/words L/like M/me and M/mine and W/we and O/our .... that's an affront to the English language and, at bottom, just too fucking stupid for words, demonstrating ego over substance. ~Alcemeg It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realise that you are in a hurry. | |
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| Cobras | Posted: 2002-07-08 00:31 | |
Forum Slut Canada 1,210 Posts | Scud, I can see where those that don't like it, even hate it, are coming from. The name Master or Sir is something earned. And for a lot of people they won't call you, or anyone, Master. The only person they will call that is Their Master. Sir is generally reserved as a sign of respect. Only once did my name ever carry the title Master with it online, and that was when I had my collared sub in r/l. Since then I have dropped the Master, opting instead for Mstr, hence most see it as saying Mister, which is perfectly fine by me. <img src=/forums/icons/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> In fact, when I joined b.com I dropped my old nic alltogether, eventhough I've used the other for years (and still use it, MstrFrontier, on a 'nilla game site) As for the capitalizing of the words Me, Myself, et all, when responding to someone's letter or chat... well, those are standards from chat rooms where, unfortunately, some people "<i>insist</i>" that they be addressed that way to <b><i>show proper respect</i></b> all the while forgetting that Respect is earned, not given. Then again, it has been MY experience that a lot of those in the chat rooms that insist on this sort of type/talk are merely players, wannabe's, kids. I quickly found that sort of T/talk to be bothersome, tiring, and not all that effective. I went back to being myself and found that is the best way to deal with people. And that includes in letters and chat. Worry less about the appearance and worry more about the content. But only you can decide what you want, and what is right for you. And that is just my opinion... your mileage will vary.
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